'06 FBR Mar 26th

Creative-fun wrote:Southpaw, kicks 06 can't register two teams in the same Tment.  They are the same kids playing with jersey numbers.  You have to make 4 trips to discover.  We are fortunate here at ntx, we see the jersey changing act every weekend .  BTW,  the kicks select kids are allstars snatched from sting, FC Dallas ,texans.  Ask chacon, tropher and becca.  Mmmm.  What time is the jersey changing act this weekend.  Wait I can look it up and post here.

So what you are saying is that Kicks was able to draw the best players away from 3 of the biggest and most powerful clubs in NTX?  Including out-Hasanning Hasan???

                

We should be celebrating that, not trying to tear it down!

or...

Maybe you should be asking yourself, what was Kicks offering that made parents think that they were a better option for their DD's than Sting, FC Dallas, or Texans???

Sounds about right to me!!!

Creative-fun wrote:Southpaw, kicks 06 can't register two teams in the same Tment.  They are the same kids playing with jersey numbers.  You have to make 4 trips to discover.  We are fortunate here at ntx, we see the jersey changing act every weekend .  BTW,  the kicks select kids are allstars snatched from sting, FC Dallas ,texans.  Ask chacon, tropher and becca.  Mmmm.  What time is the jersey changing act this weekend.  Wait I can look it up and post here.

Kicks was the top team before any kids left the Big 3. Ask chacon, tropher, and becca that. Don't try to diminish what JM does as a coach, which is develop skillful, complete soccer players.
May be why those players left.

My message has been my disagreement with fbr ranking system. I never targeted kicks, JM or anyone. We are at a happy place. I am not trying to switch. i was trying to buy liverpool uniform to donate to soccer assocoation, sent to south america with used soccer gear. And bo tries to bark like a bull dog. If Fbr needs to be published, you have to be honest and have integrity instead of calling #1, #2 , #5 teams based on a few wins with the same kids doing the work. The day we are able to see all these teams in the same Tment and show good results. Kicks has my vote. Signing off

Thank you for clarifying.. it's been about the FBR this whole time.  Man, I thought you created a new account to attack the integrity of one club.  I completely misread all 7 of your posts.  My apologies..

But I can appreciate your frustration.  I was quite puzzled last summer when I saw several random FCD players 'magically' appear on one squad that shot up on the FBR rankings soon after.  I'm sure you were equally agitated and expressed your concerns to your club being the stand up person you are.

Unfortunately I was unable to determine where they all came from, but I suppose the other 06 FCD coaches might be able to answer that one.

.Dude. wrote:Thank you for clarifying.. it's been about the FBR this whole time.  Man, I thought you created a new account to attack the integrity of one club.  I completely misread all 7 of your posts.  My apologies..

But I can appreciate your frustration.  I was quite puzzled last summer when I saw several random FCD players 'magically' appear on one squad that shot up on the FBR rankings soon after.  I'm sure you were equally agitated and expressed your concerns to your club being the stand up person you are.

Unfortunately I was unable to determine where they all came from, but I suppose the other 06 FCD coaches might be able to answer that one.

Where's the like button?

Brain fart

Rumors at city futsal Robert. I think u gave ur name and ph number in a previous post. Good luck

Creative-fun wrote:Rumors at city futsal Robert. I think u gave ur name and ph number in a previous post. Good luck

That's where I get my rumors too.   

TxSoccer Lurker?? More like a TxSoccer Stalker.
Look out for the guy in the creepy shades.  

Yes, I work for a bank. Never mind, I have a gov job and live on the forum.

bwgophers wrote:

Creative-fun wrote:Southpaw, kicks 06 can't register two teams in the same Tment.  They are the same kids playing with jersey numbers.  You have to make 4 trips to discover.  We are fortunate here at ntx, we see the jersey changing act every weekend .  BTW,  the kicks select kids are allstars snatched from sting, FC Dallas ,texans.  Ask chacon, tropher and becca.  Mmmm.  What time is the jersey changing act this weekend.  Wait I can look it up and post here.

So what you are saying is that Kicks was able to draw the best players away from 3 of the biggest and most powerful clubs in NTX?  Including out-Hasanning Hasan???

                

We should be celebrating that, not trying to tear it down!

or...

Maybe you should be asking yourself, what was Kicks offering that made parents think that they were a better option for their DD's than Sting, FC Dallas, or Texans???

Snacks after academy games is the reason.

Like JM said , u can enjoy the snacks now and look for for ECNL club in 5 years from now.

But then your DD would not get to play!!     

Creative-fun wrote:Like JM said , u can enjoy the snacks now and look for for ECNL club in 5 years from now.

Yes just like my 01s are doing now.

Creative fun, are you sure you don't already play for Kicks? Lol You seem to know a lot about our 06 player pool.   I'm not trying to hide anything. I do agree with you about FBR, nobody should look at it and think we have so many top teams.  Who cares who is on top at U8? My goal for the teams that I coach is to compete at the national level. This is reason I train a large player pool.

We began Kicks JM this season with 4 players to get the ball rolling. We just added a 5th player so we are halfway to  having a full roster. The North girls or Selecao girls you have seen on Kicks JM is to fill the roster. Once we have enough players you will see less of them. Kicks JM parents don't believe they are the 2nd best team, nor do they care they are ranked so high. The only thing important to them is that they get to train and play alongside very talented girls.


Kicks JM is looking for talented girls so they can develop into a top 2 team in NTX.  If anyone is interested in coming out please shoot me an email.

Honest advertisement . Who wouldn't want talented kids and build a 2nd ranked team? And confess, I don't care about rankings. Shrewd , smart DM only. I would never bring my DD near kicks programs built on dishonesty. And to answer ur question, one of your kicks 06 kids that came to train with my DD s team leaked kicks 06 philosophy of building second team. I just wanted to share with rest of honest soccer community.

Wow really sad to see someone so bitter and hung up on 8 year old girls soccer. Well I hope things get better for you.

Creative-fun wrote:Honest advertisement .    Who wouldn't want talented kids and build a 2nd ranked team? And confess, I don't care about rankings.   Shrewd , smart DM only.   I would never bring my DD near kicks programs built on dishonesty. And to answer ur question, one of your kicks 06 kids that came to train with my DD s team leaked kicks 06 philosophy of building second team. I just wanted to share with rest of honest soccer community.

So who came out to practice Creative?  You care enough to stir the pot, stir it some more.... PLEASE.

Any program that can build two teams or three, means trouble others. I like the player pool, it gives you a chance to have the best and that is the whole point. That is what TSCH 06 girls are doing!!! And we have are haters too!!  

I'm a little late to the party, but I read two separate issues being discussed here.  One is whether or not it's ethical or appropriate for a club to share players over multiple teams for the sake of development.  The case against young, developing players getting different looks and as many touches as possible seems a really hard one to make.  I'm not exactly sure about the question of honesty, but jm23jm seems to have clarified what his goals are and how he is proceeding into them.  Given his track record and unquestionable success with his 01's, I think it would be quite challenging to argue he's not a developer of both individuals and teams.

That being said -- and I believe Borussia is just a proud parent and excited member of Kicks nation, his intentions good and ethics completely intact -- the other question is should a Kicks parent publish rankings that see Kicks dominating the present rankings, with three of the top five spots spoken for, especially since the teams are as of yet not entirely distinct or settled?  The assumption that it's a recruiting ploy, while plausible, seems unlikely to me.  They don't seem to be struggling along that front, do they?  Would it make it better if Borussia's DD played on team ranked outside the top ten?  Or with a club that's presently less relevant in the age group?  Then, again, why care so much?

It's all in good fun, or should be.  Focus on the first point -- it is and should be only and always about development.  I'm pretty sure jm sees it this way.

Looks like our friend struggled with remembering which account to log in with...

  

Borussia wrote:Actually Borussia FC includes girls that do not play for Kicks.  There goes that theory.

You really can let the whole FBR thing go.  It's done and you won't be seeing it anymore.

Don't take your toys and go home!!! You do good work with this and you had to know going in that you would take some heat occasionally when you signed up. You are way too involved in the age group and too passionate to let a couple of snipes get off track. Keep Calm and FBR!

jklinsmann wrote:

Borussia wrote:Actually Borussia FC includes girls that do not play for Kicks.  There goes that theory.

You really can let the whole FBR thing go.  It's done and you won't be seeing it anymore.

Don't take your toys and go home!!!  You do good work with this and you had to know going in that you would take some heat occasionally when you signed up.  You are way too involved in the age group and too passionate to let a couple of snipes get off track.  Keep Calm and FBR!

Exactly. The rankings are interesting. Don't let a few naysayers put you off your work man, a lot of people appreciate it.

the7wolf wrote:

jklinsmann wrote:

Borussia wrote:Actually Borussia FC includes girls that do not play for Kicks.  There goes that theory.

You really can let the whole FBR thing go.  It's done and you won't be seeing it anymore.

Don't take your toys and go home!!!  You do good work with this and you had to know going in that you would take some heat occasionally when you signed up.  You are way too involved in the age group and too passionate to let a couple of snipes get off track.  Keep Calm and FBR!

Exactly. The rankings are interesting. Don't let a few naysayers put you off your work man, a lot of people appreciate it.

Now I get it... Bo is/has been scheming to make us beg for it... like the $10 crack/FBR whores we all are... and he's the only dealer in town... then we are beholden to him (in some way still working my way through his masterful devious plan)... perhaps his control of this nectar of life will be used to get the top players from those 4 non-kicks teams in the top 10 to switch to a kicks team... I think I'm on to him!   

As someone new to the Academy world in NTX with my U8 DD, this thread has been very interesting.

I initially looked at the FBR and thought it was a really good indicator of the top teams and thus the top coaching for this developing age group. And it was obvious that the Kicks program with the 06G's is special. I can also see that it can be a great recruiting tool for those top teams and Kick's especially. The thread did shed more light on the situation than I previously thought by just looking at the rankings. I initially thought that Kicks had a great pool of girls and were able to field 3 distinct special teams that were competing as one of the best clubs. But then I learned that in fact it is a smaller pool of girls and that they all play on all 3 teams. It does change my perception somewhat. Not in a negative way though. The CPP method is great and provides a lot of development for the girls and can only be positive. It just makes the FBR not as effective of a tool as I thought. But perhaps, if there is a lot of ringer play here with many teams, then it would be difficult to track who plays on multiple teams, etc. So I see the FBR as great and hope it continues, but it has to be looked at with a grain of salt.