'04 Girls FBR Rankings - 05-05-2014

by Guest 05/05/14, 02:59 pm

Alrighty Oh-Four Forum Folks... Let's see if we can keep this week's version of FBR out of the Tabloids and Public Records searches...

Current Rankings include game results from 01/18/14 through Present Date.

Weekly Disclaimer and Other Notes:

1) Liverpool '04 RASE is the de-facto #1 '04 girls team in NTX (unbeaten against any '04 NTX girls team for >1 year). They are not included in the FBR at this time due to a lack of games played against '04 girls opponents in the past 16 weeks

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Current Inter-Tier Records
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by tigerdad 05/05/14, 03:19 pm

What is your best guess on how many of these teams will enter the QT later this Summer? More than the 52 last year? I could see around 60 entering at the 04 age group.

by Guest 05/05/14, 03:30 pm

tigerdad wrote:What is your best guess on how many of these teams will enter the QT later this Summer? More than the 52 last year? I could see around 60 entering at the 04 age group.

My prediction sure to go wrong is that there will be fewer than 52 teams. An $800 entry fee with no minimum game guarantee (it's entirely possible that a team could only get 2 games and be done), is a pretty strong deterrent for teams unless you are very confident that you will at least make it to week #2 of the QT. I would predict somewhere between 45-50 teams total.

by ElClassico 05/05/14, 03:59 pm

A casual observer would have to question how a team that has played 9 games in 5 months while those around them have 26, 28, etc. is ranked where they are or are on the board at all. Seems like it would be a lot easier to stroll though a game here or there versus a team like Owen, Scott, LFS, etc Those teams end up playing each other night after night if not in the same day.

This is not intended as a knock on DTS at all but a question for the "system" overall. If they're not consistently playing their age group shouldn't they be off the chart like RASE?

by SD69 05/05/14, 04:03 pm

I just wish they would've played Dalglish ONE of the last two meetings.

by ElClassico 05/05/14, 04:08 pm

Maybe a minimum games played rule? Once they hit the number they're inserted at the correct spot. Minimum number could be base on an average number of games played by the top 30.

by Guest 05/05/14, 04:15 pm

ElClassico wrote:A casual observer would have to question how a team that has played 9 games in 5 months while those around them have 26, 28, etc. is ranked where they are or are on the board at all. Seems like it would be a lot easier to stroll though a game here or there versus a team like Owen, Scott, LFS, etc Those teams end up playing each other night after night if not in the same day.

This is not intended as a knock on DTS at all but a question for the "system" overall. If they're not consistently playing their age group shouldn't they be off the chart like RASE?

That team absolutely deserves their current rank. They haven't lost to anyone. Tied #5 twice, and when they have played teams ranked #10-#20, they are beating them by an average of 4+ goals. The fact that they aren't playing as often against other '04's as some of the other teams around them, likely has them 2-3 spots below where they truly belong. But then again, if you are quibbling over 2-3 spots in FBR, you really are missing the point.

by 10sDad 05/05/14, 04:33 pm

With "free agency" in full swing, the FBR is about as accurate as a blind sniper right now. You don't have any idea who you are matching up against with all the guess players out there. As you are well aware, an addition or loss of 3 pivotal players can change the whole outlook for a team. For instance...if the top 3 players moved from Spirit to Shamrock Rovers, Spirit would probably drop 5-6 spots, and the Shamrocks would be an instant top 10 team...but the FBR understandably wouldn't reflect that for a while, due to the algorithms.

by MustangGT 05/05/14, 05:26 pm

bwgophers wrote:
ElClassico wrote:A casual observer would have to question how a team that has played 9 games in 5 months while those around them have 26, 28, etc. is ranked where they are or are on the board at all. Seems like it would be a lot easier to stroll though a game here or there versus a team like Owen, Scott, LFS, etc Those teams end up playing each other night after night if not in the same day.

This is not intended as a knock on DTS at all but a question for the "system" overall. If they're not consistently playing their age group shouldn't they be off the chart like RASE?

That team absolutely deserves their current rank. They haven't lost to anyone. Tied #5 twice, and when they have played teams ranked #10-#20, they are beating them by an average of 4+ goals. The fact that they aren't playing as often against other '04's as some of the other teams around them, likely has them 2-3 spots below where they truly belong. But then again, if you are quibbling over 2-3 spots in FBR, you really are missing the point.

Seems odd to be so high still. Not saying they don't deserve it but I am sure the calculations work somehow. BW is never wrong!

Interesting to think about where they really belong. They show 4TH place in TGPL with no losses and get this, not even a single goal scored on them. How can you get 4th place and not give up a single goal all season? Very funny if you think about it.

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

by Guest 05/05/14, 05:32 pm

MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

by ElClassico 05/05/14, 05:49 pm

bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

Since these are all from the fall who are their 5 wins against that are currently listed?

by Guest 05/05/14, 05:52 pm

ElClassico wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

Since these are all from the fall who are their 5 wins against that are currently listed?

2/1/14 v. Sting North DeLeon 6-0
2/1/14 v. Mustangs Black Lopez 6-0
2/22/14 v. FCD Premier Thompson 6-0
3/22/14 v. Lady Aztecs Abe 1-0
3/29/14 v. GSSC Thunder Blue Khan 4-0

Draws against Sting Gutierrez (2x), Solar Chelsea Abbott, and Odyssey (all are 0-0 draws).

by MustangGT 05/05/14, 06:15 pm

bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

According to this:

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=441598&History=yes&compact=

they beat TX Spirit 5-3 on that last Game December 1.

Seems they have had a hard time scoring on girls but again according to that link they are scoring on the boys (and getting scored on as well).

Upcoming tournaments will be very interesting for sure.

by Guest 05/05/14, 08:25 pm

MustangGT wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

According to this:

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=441598&History=yes&compact=

they beat TX Spirit 5-3 on that last Game December 1.

Seems they have had a hard time scoring on girls but again according to that link they are scoring on the boys (and getting scored on as well).

Upcoming tournaments will be very interesting for sure.

That was the tournament final that went to PK's. 5-3 was the final score after the PK's. However, in FBR, I only count regulation scores, so it went into FBR as a 2-2 regulation draw.

by BaqueOftheNet 05/05/14, 09:17 pm

bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

According to this:

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=441598&History=yes&compact=

they beat TX Spirit 5-3 on that last Game December 1.

Seems they have had a hard time scoring on girls but again according to that link they are scoring on the boys (and getting scored on as well).

Upcoming tournaments will be very interesting for sure.

That was the tournament final that went to PK's. 5-3 was the final score after the PK's. However, in FBR, I only count regulation scores, so it went into FBR as a 2-2 regulation draw.

Are goals scored in overtime considered pk's?

by Guest 05/05/14, 09:19 pm

bwgophers wrote:
ElClassico wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

Since these are all from the fall who are their 5 wins against that are currently listed?

2/1/14 v. Sting North DeLeon 6-0
2/1/14 v. Mustangs Black Lopez 6-0
2/22/14 v. FCD Premier Thompson 6-0
3/22/14 v. Lady Aztecs Abe 1-0
3/29/14 v. GSSC Thunder Blue Khan 4-0

Draws against Sting Gutierrez (2x), Solar Chelsea Abbott, and Odyssey (all are 0-0 draws).

Looks darn good in retrospect... I'm back infatuated!!

by KnKsDad 08/05/14, 03:12 pm

bwgophers wrote:
ElClassico wrote:A casual observer would have to question how a team that has played 9 games in 5 months while those around them have 26, 28, etc. is ranked where they are or are on the board at all. Seems like it would be a lot easier to stroll though a game here or there versus a team like Owen, Scott, LFS, etc Those teams end up playing each other night after night if not in the same day.

This is not intended as a knock on DTS at all but a question for the "system" overall. If they're not consistently playing their age group shouldn't they be off the chart like RASE?

That team absolutely deserves their current rank. They haven't lost to anyone. Tied #5 twice, and when they have played teams ranked #10-#20, they are beating them by an average of 4+ goals. The fact that they aren't playing as often against other '04's as some of the other teams around them, likely has them 2-3 spots below where they truly belong. But then again, if you are quibbling over 2-3 spots in FBR, you really are missing the point.

Doubtful that would happen today, but then again FBR is not a reflection of simply today, but history during a defined period of time.

by KnKsDad 08/05/14, 03:20 pm

ElClassico wrote:A casual observer would have to question how a team that has played 9 games in 5 months while those around them have 26, 28, etc. is ranked where they are or are on the board at all. Seems like it would be a lot easier to stroll though a game here or there versus a team like Owen, Scott, LFS, etc Those teams end up playing each other night after night if not in the same day.

This is not intended as a knock on DTS at all but a question for the "system" overall. If they're not consistently playing their age group shouldn't they be off the chart like RASE?

There are a number of other teams in the top 30 that also have a relatively "low" number of games, ours being one of them, but not the same notoriety or as high up the list..oh, and not sure I would categorize it as a stroll vs those teams cited..lol

by KnKsDad 08/05/14, 03:29 pm

bwgophers wrote:
ElClassico wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
MustangGT wrote:

Does anyone know the results/times they last played the other top 5 (other than Sting of course)?

9/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 3-1 W
10/5/13 v LFS Black 2-1 W
10/6/13 v LP Dalglish 2-1 W
10/18/13 v DT Scott 1-0 W
12/1/13 v Tx. Spirit 2-2 D

Last loss to an '04 team was 9/2/13, 0-2 to LP (now Solar) Abbott

Since these are all from the fall who are their 5 wins against that are currently listed?

2/1/14 v. Sting North DeLeon 6-0
2/1/14 v. Mustangs Black Lopez 6-0
2/22/14 v. FCD Premier Thompson 6-0
3/22/14 v. Lady Aztecs Abe 1-0
3/29/14 v. GSSC Thunder Blue Khan 4-0

Draws against Sting Gutierrez (2x), Solar Chelsea Abbott, and Odyssey (all are 0-0 draws).

That Mustangs score sure seems like an aberration. Sheets, care to elaborate?

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