'04 Girls FBR Rankings - 04-15-2014

So Sting '04 Scarfone is now Sting '04 Gutierrez? New Twist to all this madness soon to come ..

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:So Sting '04 Scarfone is now Sting '04 Gutierrez?  New Twist to all this madness soon to come ..

Standard practice for Sting Dallas. Scarfone brings one of the top Dallas academy teams up through the Spring of U10, and then hands them off to another coach for select. Same thing happened with the '02's and '03's.

bwgophers wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:So Sting '04 Scarfone is now Sting '04 Gutierrez?  New Twist to all this madness soon to come ..

Standard practice for Sting Dallas.  Scarfone brings one of the top Dallas academy teams up through the Spring of U10, and then hands them off to another coach for select.  Same thing happened with the '02's and '03's.

Actually, now that I think of it, same thing essentially happened with his '01 team at D'Feeters as well...

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:So Sting '04 Scarfone is now Sting '04 Gutierrez?  New Twist to all this madness soon to come ..

New twist is already "out there" involving team movements.

I was scanning the list and thought of something...

Maybe consider:
1.  Only listing teams that play 11v11?
2.  Only leagues that are sanctioned by NTSSA?

Yes, playing 11v11 this early is another discussion that has already been played out on another thread......but by now (U10/U11) all teams should have made the transition to 11v11.  Of course it won't do much for 80% of the teams on this list and especially the top 40.

BWG.....once again thanks for doing this.....I was just curious.

1.  Only listing teams that play 11v11? I used to do this, but over time I changed my mind and think it's valid to include them. There have been some teams that have held off going to 11v11 until U11, and still been in the mix for LHGCL qualifying.

2.  Only leagues that are sanctioned by NTSSA? I don't think the rankings would be particularly interesting if I excluded SDL, TGPL, & PTCL, in addition to PSA.

Looks like 1-3 started to separate. 8-14 incredibly close.

bwgophers wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:So Sting '04 Scarfone is now Sting '04 Gutierrez?  New Twist to all this madness soon to come ..

Standard practice for Sting Dallas.  Scarfone brings one of the top Dallas academy teams up through the Spring of U10, and then hands them off to another coach for select.  Same thing happened with the '02's and '03's.

Actually, now that I think of it, same thing essentially happened with his '01 team at D'Feeters as well...

I would expect this is commonplace but do not know the exact numbers/percentages.  What percentage of teams change coaches leading up to select (move to select coach within the same club) and how many stay with their current coach through the process?

How are these teams with lopsided losing records ranked so well?  I get giving credit for playing strong teams, but couldn't anyone register for SDLP and loose all of their games?

At some point don't you have to win?

dreadpirateroberts wrote:How are these teams with lopsided losing records ranked so well?  I get giving credit for playing strong teams, but couldn't anyone register for SDLP and loose all of their games?

At some point don't you have to win?

FBR has a pretty solid track record of accurately placing teams that play "up" against tough competition and end up with poor W-L records, relative to teams that play lesser competition and have very good W-L records.

Now, with that said, I will say that I feel that FBR has Sting Cuevas "over-ranked" by a few spots right now.  Cuevas' ranking is being buoyed by their W over LP Dalglish back in Jan.  That result is a bit inconsistent compared to their other results, but it is a legitimate result, and that's the way FBR is set up.  Somewhere in the 19-23 range is probably more accurate for Cuevas, and based on my experience, that would be an accurate placement for them, even with their 1-9 record.  So, likely off a few spots there, but probably not as far off as some people might think.

I used to think along the same line but the FBR has a proven track record of being fairly accurate when it comes to rankings. Sometimes it means teams that are under .500 are listed higher than some team that's winning a bunch of silver division games. Playing better competition makes you better, it's pretty simple.

It's up to your parents and coaches as to where you play. Many times coaches will actually choose to play down because they know that winning keeps parents happy and they want to keep their team together as long as possible. I'm good with rewarding teams that play up against the toughest competition even if they lose. At this age losing really isnt all that big of a deal, parents just seem to make it a big deal so it leaves little room for actual development. That's a topic for a different day though.

Anyone know what tournaments these top teams are going to be playing in over the next few months?

soccerdad1969 wrote:Looks like 1-3 started to separate. 8-14 incredibly close.

By whose standards? The League that they play in?? Wont get a true picture until tournament play start.

Mustangs are #8, clean sheets should be happy now.

Sweet_feet99 wrote:Mustangs are #8, clean sheets should be happy now.

I'm beginning to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.

Well said Sheets, well said  

StayGolden wrote:Well said Sheets, well said  

Finally!

The AFC adidas Fall Challenge really added some spice to the FBR, back in the Fall.  I bet the AFC adidas Summer Classic (May 23-26 in Lewisville and Plano) will do the same.  

Registration and payment deadline is May 9th.

www.acesfutbolclub.com

Now I know why this forum has been so quiet lately.
All the RASE parents are over on the South Texas Soccer Forum.  An 04 girls team is finally getting a shot a RASE.

http://www.stxsoccer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2236&start=1090

MollyHatchet wrote:Now I know why this forum has been so quite lately.
All the RASE parents are over on the South Texas Soccer Forum.  An 04 girls team is finally getting a shot a RASE.

http://www.stxsoccer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2236&start=1090

Looks like kingwood is hated almost as much as some of y'all hate RASE. Why don't you get y'all's coach to call LW maybe he'll be open to a Round Robin?

Interesting if Kingswood Alliance is the best they have down there, assuming its the same team. IMO they are no where near RASE, or most other top teams from NTX for that matter. If its the same team, they played in the Legends tournament last year and the strongest team they beat was probably Piper Pride (formerly Sting Piper before the merge to Chacon). LP Owen (ranked around 15 at the time) played them to a 0-0 draw and could have beaten them if they would have converted on a clear breakaway. They went on to win the tournament, but not in a very impressive manner, and not against the top teams in the area.

They did however play a very pretty form of soccer, moving the ball around nicely. They just were never able to penetrate for any goals in the game I saw. They were also a very small team at the time.

Agree with you I think they will be in for a shock especially with the speed. I don't believe they would beat any of NTX top 5 maybe even top 10.

Master Bates wrote:Agree with you I think they will be in for a shock especially with the speed. I don't believe they would beat any of NTX top 5 maybe even top 10.

Read some of the last pages on that forum. Can't believe they think they will hold RASE to no goals. I normally root for the underdog when it doesn't directly affect my DDs team, but in this case, I hope RASE beats them 7-0 or greater. They need a little humble pie down there.

My friends DD plays for another 04 team down in Houston. He says that Kingswood parents are real big heads who think they're the best 04 team in the nation.

Are they really going to play?