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Post by Guest 08/06/14, 01:06 pm

Used2bKix wrote:RASE 2-0 vs. TX Spirit North04

Anyone got a score for LFS Black v. Sting Diaz Game?

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Post by FieldofDreams 08/06/14, 01:15 pm

soccerisfun wrote:You make it sound like they could have run the score up more if they wanted to, they just chose not to. Shocked 

They never pulled their goalie in the LFS game.  I saw the RASE goalie punt the ball a few times so she must have used her hands at some point.  And to claim LW doesn't care when he was putting starters back in at the end . . .

Certainly not trying to imply LFS should have won.  But the LFS goalie only had to make half a dozen saves, and most of those were rollers.  Sure, a few nice shots missed the goal, but total shots between the posts was less than 10.

People blame the score on the "offside trap" played simultaneously with the "parked bus."   Rolling Eyes 

You can't play the offside trap if the ball is always in your own defensive third, as some have claimed.

And apparently, if their team was playing RASE, and the ball were in their defensive third, they would still expect their midfielders to play forward and not help to defend.

So - RASE couldn't score because of the offside trap?  So wouldn't that make the trap successfully run by the LFS girls?  Great for them!  Last time I checked, minimizing goals against in a game was a good strategy.

Yes - saw the trap played effectively - so I guess it is LFS's fault that RASE couldn't adjust?

RASE played some great soccer - but the LFS girls worked hard and should be applauded for their effort.  They attacked every ball, pressured the RASE girls, and never backed down.  Their aggressive play substantially limited RASE's ability to get off good shots.

Sure - the LFS parents were excited that their girls work hard and were rewarded for their efforts - #19 held #1 to a 2-0 win.  Sad thing was, after their 10-year-old daughters worked equally hard to get the win, not too much cheering or congratulations from the RASE side.

Exactly the game I witnessed as well. JK had a strategy, as he did a couple years ago when he beat them when my DD was playing for him. Bottom line, LW could not adjust to the offside trap and when they tried, even by bringing his defenders to the forward 3rd of the field, LFS played them tight. I also saw a lack of confidence by him or his back 3, as they seldom dropped the ball back to reset and counter-attack. Fear of loss, in my opinion. Oh, not to mention many of missed or weak-shot slow-rollers by the LW's forwards. Again, the game I witnessed, and are they beatable? Without a doubt, time will tell, or maybe even another hour or so.

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Post by Shelby427 08/06/14, 03:55 pm

.........? Anyone?

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Post by db10 08/06/14, 04:15 pm

bwgophers wrote:
Used2bKix wrote:RASE 2-0 vs. TX Spirit North04

Anyone got a score for LFS Black v. Sting Diaz Game?

3-1 LFS I believe.
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Post by Guest 08/06/14, 04:17 pm

3-0 RASE champions...

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Post by 04Soccer 08/06/14, 04:27 pm

Glad they won. Now we don't have to read another 5 pages of excuses about tall grass, moving players to different positions and a packed box. Whew.
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Post by Shelby427 08/06/14, 04:30 pm

Well there you go. Not 11-0 but a decisive victory none the less.

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Post by go99 08/06/14, 04:31 pm

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soccerisfun wrote:You make it sound like they could have run the score up more if they wanted to, they just chose not to. Shocked 

They never pulled their goalie in the LFS game.  I saw the RASE goalie punt the ball a few times so she must have used her hands at some point.  And to claim LW doesn't care when he was putting starters back in at the end . . .

Certainly not trying to imply LFS should have won.  But the LFS goalie only had to make half a dozen saves, and most of those were rollers.  Sure, a few nice shots missed the goal, but total shots between the posts was less than 10.

People blame the score on the "offside trap" played simultaneously with the "parked bus."   Rolling Eyes 

You can't play the offside trap if the ball is always in your own defensive third, as some have claimed.

And apparently, if their team was playing RASE, and the ball were in their defensive third, they would still expect their midfielders to play forward and not help to defend.

So - RASE couldn't score because of the offside trap?  So wouldn't that make the trap successfully run by the LFS girls?  Great for them!  Last time I checked, minimizing goals against in a game was a good strategy.

Yes - saw the trap played effectively - so I guess it is LFS's fault that RASE couldn't adjust?

RASE played some great soccer - but the LFS girls worked hard and should be applauded for their effort.  They attacked every ball, pressured the RASE girls, and never backed down.  Their aggressive play substantially limited RASE's ability to get off good shots.

Sure - the LFS parents were excited that their girls work hard and were rewarded for their efforts - #19 held #1 to a 2-0 win.  Sad thing was, after their 10-year-old daughters worked equally hard to get the win, not too much cheering or congratulations from the RASE side.

Exactly the game I witnessed as well. JK had a strategy, as he did a couple years ago when he beat them when my DD was playing for him. Bottom line, LW could not adjust to the offside trap and when they tried, even by bringing his defenders to the forward 3rd of the field, LFS played them tight. I also saw a lack of confidence by him or his back 3, as they seldom dropped the ball back to reset and counter-attack. Fear of loss, in my opinion. Oh, not to mention many of missed or weak-shot slow-rollers by the LW's forwards. Again, the game I witnessed, and are they beatable? Without a doubt, time will tell, or maybe even another hour or so.

Actually they did drop the ball back all the way to the keeper but that doesn't work if the other team doesn't come out to pursue. Are RASE beatable? sure everyone is and eventually they will be but look again because it isn't going to be today. LFS white executed a game plan to take a loss but limit the damage and executed it perfectly but that doesn't equal the collapse of RASE as suggested.
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Post by ElClassico 08/06/14, 04:32 pm

So 2-0, 2-0, 3-0, 3-0...if my math is correct that's 10, not 37.  Objectively there may still be a gap but it doesn't seem as wide anymore. Sounds like it may be an interesting season ahead.

(Sorry forgot about the Spirit North game)


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Post by kick_tha_ball 08/06/14, 04:47 pm

0+0+0=0...by my math you can't lose if the other team can't score. 3-0 or 11-0 still means the same thing.
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Post by MustangGT 08/06/14, 05:01 pm

kick_tha_ball wrote:0+0+0=0...by my math you can't lose if the other team can't score. 3-0 or 11-0 still means the same thing.

Not the point. We are talking about a team crowned as de facto uno despite not even playing most of the top 5 in the past 12 months.

Did they win a tournament of 04s? Yes. Were the margins of victory any different than the other top teams playing same competition..... No.

That is the point. At least now no disclaimers needed for FBR right?

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Post by Lakedad 08/06/14, 05:17 pm

You can't win if you can't score.  Even the very best pro teams put up 2-3 on the bottom teams.  Give credit where credit is due.  They came in and shut out every team to win the tourney.


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Post by 60vertices 08/06/14, 05:19 pm

Saw the game. Say what you will but RASE is not the same team.

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Post by kick_tha_ball 08/06/14, 05:29 pm

The point is a win is a win...doesn't matter if it's by 1 or 10. The only ones worried about margin of victory is US PARENTS. The girls know that they went out, played hard and won this tournament. Until some team starts beating them consistently, they are still the best.
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Post by shoesnsocks 08/06/14, 05:32 pm

Are they not the same team or are the others girls getting better as they continue to develop and grow.

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Post by soccerbum11 08/06/14, 05:33 pm

Is RASE even going to be able to take the team as a whole into LH? Word on the street is they currently have 5 scholarship players.

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Post by Cmon_Man 08/06/14, 05:34 pm

Watched portions of a couple of RASE games ...one thing is clear as day- any comparisons with RASE 04 to SRSA 03 should end immediately. This is true even excluding the two SRSA studs playing 02.

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Post by Soccer Po Boy 08/06/14, 05:36 pm

60vertices wrote:Saw the game. Say what you will but RASE is not the same team.

I will have to agree with this.   Are they the best 04 team out there?   Probably.    But, the loss of a few of the players is evident.    As far as LFS goes, I think someone has their "studs" mixed up.   The one I consider the "stud" was playing today.
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Post by kick_tha_ball 08/06/14, 05:39 pm

The only ones comparing them to SR SA is parents or LP haters. THEY DID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO TO WIN.
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Post by Guest 08/06/14, 05:41 pm

How 'bout some scores for the other games?

Sting Gutierrez v. LFS White
TSN v. Sting Diaz
Aztecs v Kicks

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Post by Guest 08/06/14, 05:42 pm

I saw the game...RASE is the TOP team...

The year hiatus lead me to believe when they revisited 04 girls they would score effortlessly. Wasn't the case but...they do have a game plan and they do execute it well...very poised and comfortable in their system...JK made a second half adjustment and I did see vulnerability. Great 1on 1 save by RASE keeper...that forward had it in the bag. LFS missed another by about 6inches...

LFS started rather off slow and apparently RASE isn't the team to do that with!!


It was an eye opener...

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Post by Guest 08/06/14, 05:44 pm

Very Happy 


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Post by Son_ofa_Pitch 08/06/14, 05:44 pm

MustangGT wrote:
kick_tha_ball wrote:0+0+0=0...by my math you can't lose if the other team can't score. 3-0 or 11-0 still means the same thing.

Not the point. We are talking about a team crowned as de facto uno despite not even playing most of the top 5 in the past 12 months.

Did they win a tournament of 04s? Yes. Were the margins of victory any different than the other top teams playing same competition..... No.

That is the point. At least now no disclaimers needed for FBR right?

Here we go again with you and this de-facto thing .. Please, Please, Please FBR Lordship, PLEASE give MustangGT dd's team the mythical "DE-FACTO" title.
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Post by Guest 08/06/14, 05:47 pm

Soccer Po Boy wrote:
60vertices wrote:Saw the game. Say what you will but RASE is not the same team.

I will have to agree with this.   Are they the best 04 team out there?   Probably.    But, the loss of a few of the players is evident.    As far as LFS goes, I think someone has their "studs" mixed up.   The one I consider the "stud" was playing today.



Yeah...that stud kept the game close for LFS...

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Post by 60vertices 08/06/14, 05:57 pm

Po boy is right. LFS studs were there. Just a slow start.

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Post by PurplePonyPower 08/06/14, 05:59 pm

Fields were awful. No goals conceded. Great job RASE.

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