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Post by BrianWilliams 09/06/14, 08:37 pm

blackcleatsoccerfan wrote:Would it make you mad if your coach charged you unnecessary fees on top of the normal fees instituted by your club?

Would it make you mad if your coach pocketed those fees without any substantiation of where it was going (with proven cash withdrawals)?

Would it bother you if the manager also made cash withdrawals as well without any substantiated evidence or receipts of where it went?

Would it bother you if the amount of those funds could pay for 7 kids though an entire year of select ball or even buy a mid sized car?

Would you be bothered to know that coach lied to and produced false emails from someone who never sent them, nor owned the account to the local governing body in his defense and was called on it at the scene?

Those things would bother me.  Those things supposedly happened.

Now, who to be bothered with?  FC Dallas because that is where it happened?  Not sure - did they know about the money before he left? They certainly fired him for the alcohol issues, et all.

The manager - they were involved in it.  ??  Did it happen on is other teams?  If you are an FCD parent, did you ever pay extra fees? Do you know where they went?

The new club ??  they hired him.  Did they know this when he was hired?  Highly unlikely.  Did they know about the recruiting issues?  Highly unlikely.  Are they backing him now - looks like they are.  So, are they naive?  He probably sold them a good story.

All I know is that I am glad to know it happened and I know if we were to be looking, which path we would not have to go down.  If that is all DD soccer parents take from these postings, that is probably enough.

"bad" people or people with low morals, or whatever some of the postings in this section have described will always "get their own" and usually by their own doing.



O M G!  YOU must be the FCD Premier manager!  Shocked 

the height of the fraud and deceit - trying to lie his way through the hearing by dragging others into the mud with him

and yes, Sting knew why JD was terminated at FCD.  They were warned multiple times.

and FCD?  Did they know about the missing money before JD left?  and if so, what action did they take?

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Post by blackcleatsoccerfan 09/06/14, 09:27 pm

I am! I am! The manager and I have all the money....mwahahahaha.

Sadly, none of that money is lining my wallet.

Who turned him in? It wasn't sting, it wasn't FCD.....how did this all come up? Not clear. Maybe it was FCD but it would be weird to pull their name into bad pr if they could've just handled it in house. I am certain they cannot be happy with all this speculation.
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Post by Lobo_Momma 09/06/14, 09:37 pm

This whole sordid affair reflects very badly on both clubs that represent this particular 03 age group.
After reading this, it seems clear that the current FCD manager and JD are two characters that should be given a very wide berth going forward.
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Post by gettingwhipped 09/06/14, 10:15 pm

Do not worry onythetruth and sickofit. I would not accuse anyone to be as low class as you.

Enjoy this ride. I'm only getting started. We have a lot to discuss. Plenty to warn people about you and FCD Premier remaining parents.

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Post by jsullivan81 09/06/14, 10:23 pm

Informing parents is one thing. Having a personal vendetta against a club / coach is another. You sound like a scorned high school ex girlfriend who can't move on. Soooooo, carry on.

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Post by Coach&Ref 09/06/14, 10:43 pm

Lobo_Momma wrote:This whole sordid affair reflects very badly on both clubs that represent this particular 03 age group.
After reading this, it seems clear that the current FCD manager and JD are two characters that should be given a very wide berth going forward.

Agree 100%.

I think the perception here is that both FCD and Sting are cast in a bad light and for what? One coach? I don't know the guy, but is he Pep Guardiola or someone worth the trouble of sullying your club's name for?

There are many good coaches out there. Why is this guy so important? Are the 6-7 11yo girls, that irreplaceable for the clubs?
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Post by newbiefornow 09/06/14, 11:13 pm

OK reading between the lines and assuming the assertions are true, which is possible, the guy got a bit Tipsy (or a little more than that) in Vegas. He seems to have organized Game video's of his teams and expenses for his travel that some parents were pretty unhappy about paying for. He also obviously pulled a big chunk of his ‘03 team across to Sting.

I can understand that if you're a parent of a DD that got displaced from the top Sting '03 Team in D1 you'd be fairly ticked and I'm definitely getting the impression of a lack of love from the remaining FCD Premier parents. There's certainly a lot of vengeance flying. My guess is from FCD not Sting which is classy.

What about FCD Gold? Does anybody seriously believe they all spontaneously decided to move to Solar exactly on June 1st. I guess if you're going to "follow" the rules you need to do it like Solar.

Having a few too many in Vegas doesn't make you an Alcoholic but if you're coaching a Girls Soccer team at a tournament it might not be great judgment. BTW that is absolutely not part of any findings and is complete hearsay. So not sure why it hasn't been deleted. If you need to know a coaches personal life this will matter to you. If you care about coaching, show up to the practices and watch the games.

I'm not from North TX so personally I like a man who enjoys a Pint. Haters be hatin. Coaches be coaching.

LP has some pretty good coaching and people who have been known to consume Tequila. Just say'in.

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Post by BahamaMamma 10/06/14, 01:53 am

It's okay....mamma is here. Everything is gonna be okay!!!!! Jessie is a fantastic coach. And for those of you who feel all purified.....go ahead and cast a stone.... I assure you....your mirror will be broken. Next!!!!! There is not one single team in north Texas that is without sin...so shut up and suck it up....we are coming into a new year.. Let this be a year of forgive and forget. Or we can hash out all you have think you have unturned ......trust me........I have many many many friends..........I'll call them out now.... Idc.......yes.i love you all but I know the ones who have slept with coaches ... I know those who know board members .....at the end of the day...... Either shut up or put your kid in rec. hugs and kisses....... And yes.... That is how I roll. Sincerely. Bahama mamma!!!

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Post by Coach&Ref 10/06/14, 02:08 am

BahamaMamma wrote:It's okay....mamma is here.  Everything is gonna be okay!!!!!  Jessie is a fantastic coach. And for those of you who feel all purified.....go ahead and cast a stone.... I assure you....your mirror will be broken.   Next!!!!!   There is not one single team in north Texas that is without sin...so shut up and suck it up....we are coming into a new year.. Let this be a year of forgive and forget.   Or we can hash out all you have think you have unturned ......trust me........I have many many many friends..........I'll call them out now.... Idc.......yes.i love you all but I know the ones who have slept with coaches ... I know those who know board members .....at the end of the day...... Either shut up or put your kid in rec.    hugs and kisses....... And yes.... That is how I roll.   Sincerely.   Bahama mamma!!!

You had me at "Slept with coaches!" Shocked 

Now that I know that that is a viable bartering method, I just need to be pointed in the direction of said coaches!  Laughing
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Post by BrianWilliams 10/06/14, 08:21 am

newbiefornow wrote:OK reading between the lines and assuming the assertions are true, which is possible, the guy got a bit Tipsy (or a little more than that) in Vegas.
Not just Vegas.  Happened in Orlando the year before, and was warned by FCD.  I have no problem with anyone in Vegas having a few drinks - so long as it doesn't impact the coaching.  Apparently, it did - otherwise, no one would have known.  This is why he was let go.
He seems to have organized Game video's of his teams and expenses for his travel that some parents were pretty unhappy about paying for. That may be the case - where is the support for the costs?  Does he have the receipts to account for even a small portion of the est. $20k??  Hence, the financial irregularities.  He has responsbility for accounting for all of the money - which he failed to do.  NTSSA findings still outstanding on this.  He also obviously pulled a big chunk of his ‘03 team across to Sting.

I can understand that if you're a parent of a DD that got displaced from the top Sting '03 Team in D1 you'd be fairly ticked and I'm definitely getting the impression of a lack of love from the remaining FCD Premier parents. There's certainly a lot of vengeance flying. My guess is from FCD not Sting which is classy.

What about FCD Gold? Does anybody seriously believe they all spontaneously decided to move to Solar exactly on June 1st. I guess if you're going to "follow" the rules you need to do it like Solar. And ultimately, at this point, this is where the NTSSA sanctions were handed down.  A hearing that started one morning and lasted into the next morning resulted in a 2 year suspension for recruiting violations.  Clearly the board felt the violations were egregious to hand down a 2 year suspension in a matter of hours.  Add on top of that the fraudulent emails he produced at the hearing to try and save himself.  In totality, it becomes a question of character that prospective players and parents have a right to know about.

Having a few too many in Vegas doesn't make you an Alcoholic but if you're coaching a Girls Soccer team at a tournament it might not be great judgment. BTW that is absolutely not part of any findings and is complete hearsay. So not sure why it hasn't been deleted. If you need to know a coaches personal life this will matter to you.It is no longer your "personal life" when it impacts your professional life as it did. If you care about coaching, show up to the practices and watch the games.

I'm not from North TX so personally I like a man who enjoys a Pint. Haters be hatin. Coaches be coaching.

LP has some pretty good coaching and people who have been known to consume Tequila. Just say'in. And if it impacted their coaching duites, I would hope that potential players and parents would have the information in order to make an informed decision.
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Post by monsta 10/06/14, 08:26 am

jsullivan81 wrote:Informing parents is one thing. Having a personal vendetta against a club / coach is another. You sound like a scorned high school ex girlfriend who can't move on. Soooooo, carry on.

This is the best post yet. It sounds too personal. sound like women who cant get over it. No one wins here. Yes to the post that stated " should of been handled in house". Bad for all involved, including bad for girls soccer.
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Post by Guest 10/06/14, 08:38 am

"..I have many many many friends..........I'll call them out now.... Idc.......yes.i love you all but I know the ones who have slept with coaches ."

why does it not surprise me that you have "friends" who sleep with coaches and then turn around and defend this coach... barf

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Post by blackcleatsoccerfan 10/06/14, 10:20 am

cheers 
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Post by Soccer Junkie 10/06/14, 10:27 am

It was me, I slept with all of the coaches, my daughter was only getting 90% playing time on her team so I slept with them all to cover all of my bases


By the way I did have approval from my wife, she said as long as it is for more playing time for my daughter I should do everything in my power

SO I did it and I would do it again if I had to
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Post by BahamaMamma 10/06/14, 10:33 am

Sp.....you know exactly what I'm talking about. And that's a much bigger story than any of this crap and yet here we sit trying to ruin one mans life.... Let's move on.

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Post by gettingwhipped 10/06/14, 10:43 am

Onlythetruth, with each of your posts, I will continue to bash you.

As co-treasurer, did you not take any responsibility or did you just write checks out of your personal business account blindly? Your complete exaggerations is comical. I guess we should expect that from you.

Just a few weeks to go, spend more time building a team around your DD and less here.

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Post by BrianWilliams 10/06/14, 10:53 am

gettingwhipped wrote:Onlythetruth, with each of your posts, I will continue to bash you.

As co-treasurer, did you not take any responsibility or did you just write checks out of your personal business account blindly? Your complete exaggerations is comical. I guess we should expect that from you.

Just a few weeks to go, spend more time building a team around your DD and less here.  

That's fine - bash away.  Because you and your JD supporters have nothing to stand on.

I come here with facts - you simply attack me.  You have yet to dispute any specific item that I or others have presented.

I challenge you to name a single item that is untrue or a "complete exaggeration".

I challenge you to READ a copy of the NTSSA findings.  Call JD - he has a copy.  I challenge you to post a copy here.  You seem to think that will clear his good name.

Again - not the FCD Premier manager and never affiliated with FCD Premier - but good try!  (You will also notice that my posts call out FCD for their complicity in this matter.)
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Post by gettingwhipped 10/06/14, 11:09 am

onlythetruth, you want to post facts, but you do not have them either. You are a simple puppet given information. I'm not defending JD or Sting. I am simply calling out the slimeballs like you and the rest of your classless peers that had a part in all this. As parents, the NTSSA did not pursue you, they went after coach and manager. Completely understood.

I just want to be clear and ALL parents looking for a team for their DD completely understand, that you and the remaining parents at FCD Premier are cowards.

Even with no affiliatation to FCD Premier, you are only fueling the fire while they are trying to build their team. Keep it up. Heard from one of them yesterday that said they wished you would shut the h*ll up so I would do the same.

Sickofit seemed to have walked away, you should try to do the same. If you wanted to come on here and make your comment with facts, you would have stopped their, but no. You want to keep on digging. Well, now I am here. Keep posting and I will do the same.

Some say in the PR world that bad publicity is good publicity. Is this the case for FCD Premier?

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Post by jsullivan81 10/06/14, 11:27 am

I think I feel less intelligent after reading this thread. I am usually not a fan of censorship, but this is beyond comical at this point.

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Post by BrianWilliams 10/06/14, 11:32 am

gettingwhipped wrote:onlythetruth, you want to post facts, but you do not have them either.  And I suppose you do, but are just hiding them from eveyone?  why?  or maybe you don't, but can't specifically deny any item I have listed You are a simple puppet of whom? given information. I'm not defending JD or Sting. I am simply calling out the slimeballs like you and the rest of your classless peers that had a part in all this. As parents, the NTSSA did not pursue you, they went after coach and manager. Completely understood.

I just want to be clear and ALL parents looking for a team for their DD completely understand, that you and the remaining parents at FCD Premier are cowards.

Even with no affiliatation to FCD Premier, so which is it?  I am or I am not?  and why slander all the other FCD Premier parents? you are only fueling the fire while they are trying to build their team. Keep it up. Heard from one of them yesterday that said they wished you would shut the h*ll up so I would do the same. If you were so concerned, you would stop coming here with your general denials, and present some facts or a valid argument instead of your vents.

Sickofit seemed to have walked away, you should try to do the same. If you wanted to come on here and make your comment with facts, you would have stopped their, but no. You want to keep on digging. Well, now I am here. Keep posting and I will do the same.

Some say in the PR world that bad publicity is good publicity. Is this the case for FCD Premier?  Honestly, don't care about FCD, FCD Premier, 03 girls, or Sting.  I care that people know the facts.

Good try whipped! Again - I challenge you do identify a SINGLE item I have posted that is not true or even an exaggeration - and you can't.  

My agenda is to put the facts out there so people can make an informed decision about JD before joining his team.  Your agenda is to yell and scream and hope that distracts from the facts.

If NTSSA findings were published on-line, someone could link to them (like they have for police reports, mug shots, FBI investigations, etc.).  But they are not.  Jesse is in possession - not likely he wants that to see the light of day.  Now it has been exposed.
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Post by gettingwhipped 10/06/14, 11:41 am

Then expose them onlythetruth. You have the facts, but you only post what you want to post about them. You know the underlying secrets that are hiding. Those came out in the meeting, but you keep those to yourself.

You are not part of the FCD Premier team, but you know SOOOO much about what happened. Post the NTSSA findings. Please. Or maybe, just maybe, you don't have them. Without those, you only know what you were told.

You keep posting and responding to get the message out there as a concerned parent right? How many times do you need to post until everybody gets it?

Tell me, do the parents at FCD Premier appreciate all that you are doing for them? Do they appreciate you going back and forth with me posting on this wonderful public forum? Ask them, please. I did.

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Post by BrianWilliams 10/06/14, 11:56 am

gettingwhipped wrote:Then expose them onlythetruth. You have the facts, but you only post what you want to post about them. You know the underlying secrets that are hiding. Those came out in the meeting, but you keep those to yourself.

You are not part of the FCD Premier team, but you know SOOOO much about what happened. Post the NTSSA findings. Please. Or maybe, just maybe, you don't have them. Without those, you only know what you were told.

You keep posting and responding to get the message out there as a concerned parent right? How many times do you need to post until everybody gets it?

Tell me, do the parents at FCD Premier appreciate all that you are doing for them? Do they appreciate you going back and forth with me posting on this wonderful public forum? Ask them, please. I did.


I guess here is the difference - I'm not doing this to make friends or impress anyone.  I am not doing this for the parents of FCD.  I think light should be shown on this whole sordid affair -  if there is bad behavior on any parties affiliated with this mess, it should come out.  Parents should know the dogs they lay down with.  You claim to care so much about what your FCD friends want, and yet continue to come here to vent.

If there are other facts, then why not bring them forward?  what are you hiding and why?

As for my posting - you have accused me of posting untruths and gross exaggerations, but can't make a single example.  Again, I challenge you to identify any fact I have stated that is not true or exaggerated.  You have not done so - becasue you are unable to.

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Post by jsullivan81 10/06/14, 11:59 am

onlythetruth wrote:
gettingwhipped wrote:Then expose them onlythetruth. You have the facts, but you only post what you want to post about them. You know the underlying secrets that are hiding. Those came out in the meeting, but you keep those to yourself.

You are not part of the FCD Premier team, but you know SOOOO much about what happened. Post the NTSSA findings. Please. Or maybe, just maybe, you don't have them. Without those, you only know what you were told.

You keep posting and responding to get the message out there as a concerned parent right? How many times do you need to post until everybody gets it?

Tell me, do the parents at FCD Premier appreciate all that you are doing for them? Do they appreciate you going back and forth with me posting on this wonderful public forum? Ask them, please. I did.


I guess here is the difference - I'm not doing this to make friends or impress anyone.  I am not doing this for the parents of FCD.  I think light should be shown on this whole sordid affair -  if there is bad behavior on any parties affiliated with this mess, it should come out.  Parents should know the dogs they lay down with.  You claim to care so much about what your FCD friends want, and yet continue to come here to vent.

If there are other facts, then why not bring them forward?  what are you hiding and why?

As for my posting - you have accused me of posting untruths and gross exaggerations, but can't make a single example.  Again, I challenge you to identify any fact I have stated that is not true or exaggerated.  You have not done so - becasue you are unable to.


I will take the challange. The way you spelled because is not factually correct. Do I win a prize?

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Post by BrianWilliams 10/06/14, 12:23 pm

jsullivan81 wrote:
onlythetruth wrote:
gettingwhipped wrote:Then expose them onlythetruth. You have the facts, but you only post what you want to post about them. You know the underlying secrets that are hiding. Those came out in the meeting, but you keep those to yourself.

You are not part of the FCD Premier team, but you know SOOOO much about what happened. Post the NTSSA findings. Please. Or maybe, just maybe, you don't have them. Without those, you only know what you were told.

You keep posting and responding to get the message out there as a concerned parent right? How many times do you need to post until everybody gets it?

Tell me, do the parents at FCD Premier appreciate all that you are doing for them? Do they appreciate you going back and forth with me posting on this wonderful public forum? Ask them, please. I did.


I guess here is the difference - I'm not doing this to make friends or impress anyone.  I am not doing this for the parents of FCD.  I think light should be shown on this whole sordid affair -  if there is bad behavior on any parties affiliated with this mess, it should come out.  Parents should know the dogs they lay down with.  You claim to care so much about what your FCD friends want, and yet continue to come here to vent.

If there are other facts, then why not bring them forward?  what are you hiding and why?

As for my posting - you have accused me of posting untruths and gross exaggerations, but can't make a single example.  Again, I challenge you to identify any fact I have stated that is not true or exaggerated.  You have not done so - becasue you are unable to.



I will take the challange. The way you spelled because is not factually correct. Do I win a prize?

You got me.  Only the truth.  I have speling issues.  Without a spel cheker I have issues.  Others likely claim I have other issues as well.  Very Happy
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Post by gettingwhipped 10/06/14, 12:29 pm

Your quote: That may be the case - where is the support for the costs? Does he have the receipts to account for even a small portion of the est. $20k?? Hence, the financial irregularities. He has responsbility for accounting for all of the money - which he failed to do. NTSSA findings still outstanding on this.

Wrong. The total amount of funds from the fundraiser was $19K. Funds missing or in question is less than $5K.

Please provide more factual accurate information. Again, you do not have anything in writing so all you are getting is hearsay.

Maybe the NTSSA board member involved with your team can provide you facts from his desk.

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Post by BrianWilliams 10/06/14, 12:44 pm

gettingwhipped wrote:Your quote: That may be the case - where is the support for the costs?  Does he have the receipts to account for even a small portion of the est. $20k??  Hence, the financial irregularities.  He has responsbility for accounting for all of the money - which he failed to do.  NTSSA findings still outstanding on this.

Wrong. The total amount of funds from the fundraiser was $19K.  est. $20k vs. exactly $19k - ok.  and it wasn't a single fundraiser Funds missing or in question is less than $5K.

Please provide more factual accurate information. Again, you do not have anything in writing so all you are getting is hearsay.

Maybe the NTSSA board member involved with your team can provide you facts from his desk. ok - again, back to the whole team thing.  Involved with the team, not involved with the team, make up your mind.  


It is my understanding that the board has not reached a conclusion on the the financial irregularities - but you may know more than I on that.  And yet you now admit there also may have been financial irregularities.  Shouldn't people have a right to know that the coach they are affiliated with has had some questionable financial dealings?  In the least, maybe they can protect their investment in the future by limiting access?

Problem is - aside from the est. $5k check he wrote to himself, most draws were taken as cash withdraws and lacked support or any record of who withdrew the funds.  As a result, financial responsibility can not be established, as at least 2 people had access to the account.
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