Will Sting fire JD?

gettingwhipped wrote:Your quote: That may be the case - where is the support for the costs?  Does he have the receipts to account for even a small portion of the est. $20k??  Hence, the financial irregularities.  He has responsbility for accounting for all of the money - which he failed to do.  NTSSA findings still outstanding on this.

Wrong. The total amount of funds from the fundraiser was $19K.  est. $20k vs. exactly $19k - ok.  and it wasn't a single fundraiser Funds missing or in question is less than $5K.

Please provide more factual accurate information. Again, you do not have anything in writing so all you are getting is hearsay.

Maybe the NTSSA board member involved with your team can provide you facts from his desk. ok - again, back to the whole team thing.  Involved with the team, not involved with the team, make up your mind.  

It is my understanding that the board has not reached a conclusion on the the financial irregularities - but you may know more than I on that.  And yet you now admit there also may have been financial irregularities.  Shouldn't people have a right to know that the coach they are affiliated with has had some questionable financial dealings?  In the least, maybe they can protect their investment in the future by limiting access?

Problem is - aside from the est. $5k check he wrote to himself, most draws were taken as cash withdraws and lacked support or any record of who withdrew the funds.  As a result, financial responsibility can not be established, as at least 2 people had access to the account.

So the information you have is not factual. Just what you heard.

4 pages now of your "wanting to help other people" and still say you are not affiliated with FCD Premier? Either way, you represent them well. They are loving you for this.

Hello remaining FCD Premier parents, is onlythetruth doing exactly what you want while you are building a team? I heard yesterday you want it stopped.

I'm curious to see where gettingwhipped and the rest of the group that left FCD Prem end up. Something tells me that's going to be a fun team to watch. No idea if they will be any good or not but they will be entertaining to say the least.

If I've learned anything over the years when it comes to soccer parents, you can't cure crazy. Good luck FCD Prem and Sting ?

My non-attendance at the hearing does not make the information I posted less factual.  You apparently have "all" the details, but refuse to provide them.  Why is that?  Because maybe it is contrary to the stories JD has told his parents?  Contrary to your own agenda?  

You claim to have love and concern for the FCD parents in one breath - but certainly haven't shown any here as you disparage them! What a hypocrite!  Interestingly - YOU are the one who keeps referring to your FCD "friends".  You certainly have not treated them as such.

The post is one of the character of JD.  I am not the only one who has posted unseemly information about him in this post - just the only one willing to continue this banter.  If others outside JD and his manager have received sanctions, or have allegedly been involved in fraudulaent activity, they should be exposed as well.  Neither the current coach nor the remaining parents have been implicated in this mess - aside from your own innuendo.

The question is why Sting would stick by a coach facing 2 years of NTSSA suspension, who committed fraud at the hearing.  JD's character prior to and at the hearing reflect poorly on him - as well as on any club that sticks with him.  The intent - whether you wish to believe it or not - is to shed light on the behavior and character of this coach.

I have not questioned the integrity of parents on either side (unlike you).  They are likely very nice people, who, due to efforts of you and people like you, have been left in the dark.  Hopefully, the FCD team can move forward without the coach and manager who caused the derision.  Hopefully those affiliated with him now at Sting have some insight into his character.

Here is a different thought:

LHGCL seems to me to be way too involved. In the JD case. If there is money concerns, that should be between the parents and FCD. NTSSA/LHGCL has no bearing over Fund Raisers.. If the Club approved it, then is is on them. If not, then the coach would really be in trouble, but still it would be up to the Club to resolve.

As for Recruiting violations??? Why do they even exist?? That is like making a problem out of nothing. You already signed a contract, so the only violation should be when a Rep of a Club tries to assist in a family getting a release from another Club. Otherwise, recruiting for "next year".. Non-Issue...

As for parents acting up at games?? Keep it simple! 1st offense - 1 game + $50. 2nd Offense - 3 games + $100. 3rd offense  -6 games + $100. 4th offense - Done for the year. See I just solved 90% percent of the issues LHGCL actually has a board full of people to work on...

And before some you board members (some are friends of mine) decide to PM explaining why it is necessary, it is not that serious.

Is there a time line that someone could draw out for all of this? I'm lost as can be and am only getting out of this some disjointed info like: druggie, alcoholic, fired, stolen money, 6-7 girls leaving, 2yr suspension. FCD Gold going to Solar, FCD Premier possibly not making, half the team getting scholarships, etc.

What's the order of events? Was it planned all along or was it a back stab out of the blue?

More publicity for your club onlythetruth. The remaining parents at FCD are no friends of mine. That is NO secret.

What baffles me is the fact you keep posting, but you made your point clear in your first post. I think you are enjoying this as much as I am. However, you are not doing any favors to the parents at FCD trying to build the team. They want you to stop, trust me.

OK, we get it:

There is a group that wanted to discuss JD's past few months.  You made your point - you wouldn't want him as your coach.  He's done some stuff that most people would not want their coach to do.  He was fired and suspended.

There is another group that does not dispute that JD acted inappropriately, but they know that not one of us is perfect.  They are happy with JD as a coach and they plan to support him.

Next topic!

PlanoBound wrote:OK, we get it:

There is a group that wanted to discuss JD's past few months.  You made your point - you wouldn't want him as your coach.  He's done some stuff that most people would not want their coach to do.  He was fired and suspended.

There is another group that does not dispute that JD acted inappropriately, but they know that not one of us is perfect.  They are happy with JD as a coach and they plan to support him.

Next topic!

Now that is logic. Thank you Planobound.

Unfortunately, both sets of kids and families got screwed.  You are either at FCD with 1/2 a team or at Sting with 1/2 a team...and JD has your money!  I'm sure he is laughing all the way to the bank.

As dear sweet Dori would say "Just keep swimming...."   

monsta wrote:

jsullivan81 wrote:Informing parents is one thing. Having a personal vendetta against a club / coach is another. You sound like a scorned high school ex girlfriend who can't move on. Soooooo, carry on.

This is the best post yet. It sounds too personal. sound like women who cant get over it. No one wins here. Yes to the post that stated " should of been handled in house". Bad for all involved, including bad for girls soccer.

I wanna bootleg this and send annomonously to my EX.....     

Actually this sounds like a whole host of scorned teenagers - on both sides.

If this coach committed a crime then plain and simple "he should do the time." I can understand loyalty. I can understand turning the other cheek or turning a blind eye. But I also believe in the following: You shouldn't steal. You shouldn't lie and you shouldn't cheat.

As to whether or not he is guilty, I don't know and that determination is up to the league and any other agency.

I wish I could sustain a noble line and say (as some on this topic have) that it wouldn't matter what he did that if I were part of his team I would stick with him. I know, human being that I am, that I would not be comfortable with my DD playing on his team if all the accusations turned out to be true. That is just not the type of role model I would want her to follow. I wish everyone the best in this situation. As it stands right now, it doesn't appear that anyone will come out a winner.

InaB wrote:Actually this sounds like a whole host of scorned teenagers - on both sides.

If this coach committed a crime then plain and simple "he should do the time." I can understand loyalty. I can understand turning the other cheek or turning a blind eye. But I also believe in the following: You shouldn't steal. You shouldn't lie and you shouldn't cheat.

As to whether or not he is guilty, I don't know and that determination is up to the league and any other agency.

I wish I could sustain a noble line and say (as some on this topic have) that it wouldn't matter what he did that if I were part of his team I would stick with him. I know, human being that I am, that I would not be comfortable with my DD playing on his team if all the accusations turned out to be true. That is just not the type of role model I would want her to follow. I wish everyone the best in this situation. As it stands right now, it doesn't appear that anyone will come out a winner.