Trash talking by coaches to players in other teams

go99 wrote:Just do or do not.

...you forgot the "There is no try" part. Or should that have been "There is no tease"? ;-)

Thanks for all the input. I was not sure what to do and asked for advise. I sincerely appreciate the posts as it was eye opener when I read some of the stuff. My daughter was abused and I am fighting for her. I don't mean to waste any ones time. I have taken incident to the folks who run this place, they are as upset as I am and they promised they'll take care of my child. That's all that matters to me. Just to clarify, incident did not happen at UAL. I clarified to Nicole as well .

if you want something done take the incident up with the DOC of the club for whatever team it was. If he isn't a top coach or has alot of teams (ie brings in alot of revenue) they may actually do something. But as far as the league goes I would expect alot of lip service to you and very little action

go99 wrote:if you want something done take the incident up with the DOC of the club for whatever team it was.  If he isn't a top coach or has alot of teams (ie brings in alot of revenue) they may actually do something.  But as far as the league goes I would expect alot of lip service to you and very little action

I believe the opposite is true. DOC will only care if the coach is trying to take the team to another club.

Boom......Anytime a 8,9,10 year has a negative interaction with other coach, parent. It is not a great situation. My kid was yelled by a parent from our old team, since his kid can't keep with the rest of the kids in the team. competitive kids (per coach), my wife and i were not there when the incident occured. My kid was 8 year old at that time. It was totally inappropriate for a grown A$$ parent to have a negative interaction with any other child. i took the incident to coach and he did not do anything. The culprit brought in revenue to the club and thats all the organization cared. I switched clubs and the practices started to look like fun again for my academy kid. Most organizations care just about the revenue only.

go99 wrote:if you want something done take the incident up with the DOC of the club for whatever team it was.  If he isn't a top coach or has alot of teams (ie brings in alot of revenue) they may actually do something.  But as far as the league goes I would expect alot of lip service to you and very little action

Talking trash to a kid, whether you're a coach or a parent, is abhorrent. I can't prescribe to any situation, even if it's the national championship, whereby demeaning a child is remotely ok.

I make a point after every game of walking the line, win or lose, and you'll get kids that drop their hand, give you a grimace, etc. but these are kids for Scooby's sake.

Any coach who berates a kid on the opposite team needs to take more than a deep look at themselves. Utterly and completely unacceptable in each and every circumstance.

FierceLightning wrote: This coach may have had a bad day that game and its not a pattern for them. If it becomes a pattern for this coach, then it becomes more serious. Then making others aware is a good community activity. But shaming someone on a public forum is not warranted until that person becomes a habitual offender.

Yes, of course. An adult in a position of authority should be allowed to intimidate or trash-talk a CHILD MULTIPLE times before anybody does anything. Brilliant.

Real way to solve this problem is bring it up to the league which you have.

After that, take it into your own hands. Next time you play the jerk your kids should run and celebrate right in front of him when they score. Make it a practice every time you ever play his team in the future. You can handle it off the field, they can handle it on the field.

Not a good suggestion! Please do not follow that advice!

Best move is to record it and share the youtube link on this forum.

Why would you not post who the coach, club and league? The clubs make money and so do the coaches and they are ran like a business. Any business or employee of a business should be held accountable. Maybe the league handles it maybe not, but the market (which are families that will not play for this coach/club) can def. handle it.

This also gives the coach (who would find out about the topic at hand) the opportunity to respond or apologize or whatever. There are things such as 2nd chances in life. Not at all suggesting its okay or that I would ever let my kid play there because I wouldn't but to each his own.

I believe by not posting and letting the market handle this you are encouraging the act. You do not play this team this week but there are 10 or 15 girls playing this team this weekend. Why would you not want to help protect those girls and parents?

I cannot quite grab the concept of keeping a secret...the coach, club, and league can all be held accountable for the action and there is nothing wrong in doing that. That is the way business works...good luck in your decision.

pegleg wrote:Why would you not post who the coach, club and league?  The clubs make money and so do the coaches and they are ran like a business.  Any business or employee of a business should be held accountable.  Maybe the league handles it maybe not, but the market (which are families that will not play for this coach/club) can def. handle it.  

This also gives the coach (who would find out about the topic at hand) the opportunity to respond or apologize or whatever.  There are things such as 2nd chances in life.  Not at all suggesting its okay or that I would ever let my kid play there because I wouldn't but to each his own.

I believe by not posting and letting the market handle this you are encouraging the act.  You do not play this team this week but there are 10 or 15 girls playing this team this weekend.  Why would you not want to help protect those girls and parents?

I cannot quite grab the concept of keeping a secret...the coach, club, and league can all be held accountable for the action and there is nothing wrong in doing that.  That is the way business works...good luck in your decision.

Being a little dramatic aren't you?

The person and the kid are very sad , depressed and sorrow . The kid cries every single time she steps on the floor. There is no competition there. It bothers the dude to a point he is confused.

Zizou wrote:Not a good suggestion! Please do not follow that advice!

It is very transparent who it is now. There were several kids from different clubs when this incident happened and it's not a secret.

He is using deferent screen names and tries to bash this thread and then he finally brings up issues from the past to get away from this thread. Like I said, the folks who need to act know what happened. He should have very thick skin and no shame to walk in the facility again. Like 7wolf said, he should look himself in the mirror and evaluate how far he is going

Maradonamoves wrote:The person and the kid are very sad , depressed and sorrow .  The kid cries every single time she steps on the floor. There is no competition there.   It bothers the dude to a point he is confused.

Well, sh_t! Sad to hear it got that bad, I really am.

Yes the mentally unhealthy coach that targeted a 9 year old and his kid cries every single time when she steps on the field. Suspect a case of abuse in the hiusehold based on their behavioral patterns. You can probably help.

Sho'nuff wrote:

Maradonamoves wrote:The person and the kid are very sad , depressed and sorrow .  The kid cries every single time she steps on the floor. There is no competition there.   It bothers the dude to a point he is confused.

Well, sh_t! Sad to hear it got that bad, I really am.

The sick coach

Maradonamoves wrote:It is very transparent who it is now. There were several kids from different clubs when this incident happened and it's not a secret.

Don't know how transparent the situation is to most people but I wonder what is being done to rectify it being as my DD guest plays for teams throughout the year. I don't want to end up in that same situation.
She can hold her own with the trash talking forwards when they step in her box. She doesn't need to mix it up with coaches yet.

Shonuff, keepercommander. Zizou and many other prominent avatars of the same idiot, As I told, I was here to see how anyone would deal with this shameless idiot. The idiot is already embarrassed and I am making sure I talk about this issue to the facility folks and they promised it won't happen at any kid in their facility. As far as actions, I am not sure what they will do to him. If he acts like this to my kid again. I'll take the matter into my own hands. And thanks guys for sharing such issues perverts and brainless bastards do exist and are rare . I appreciate folks like Nicole and several leagues that were willing to give full support to eliminate the viruses that prevail in NTX soccer.

Maradonamoves wrote:I am making sure I talk about this issue to the facility folks and they promised it won't  happen at any kid in their facility.  As far as actions, I am not sure what they will do to him.  

They will do nothing.

Maradonamoves wrote:Shonuff, keepercommander. Zizou and many other prominent avatars of the same idiot,                          As I told, I was here to see how anyone would deal with this shameless idiot.  The idiot is already embarrassed and I am making sure I talk about this issue to the facility folks and they promised it won't  happen at any kid in their facility.  As far as actions, I am not sure what they will do to him.  If he acts like this to my kid again. I'll take the matter into my own hands.   And thanks guys for sharing such issues  perverts and brainless bastards do exist and are rare .  I appreciate folks like Nicole and several leagues that were willing to give full support to eliminate the viruses that prevail in NTX soccer.

To be sure, it's a little naive to believe that "it won't happen to any kid in their facility" simply because someone says so. No league can 100% control any player, coach, or spectator.  All they can do is provide consequences when something does happen.

Whether you choose to out the guy or not is your business, but the truth is there are idiots all over out there, and some of them are going to do or say something objectionable.  

I, for one, believe the leagues endeavor to the right thing.  There are multiple avenues available for them to take action, from an informal "talk", all the way to a formal hearing with whatever disciplinary action they choose, and then the individual has appeal rights over and above that.  Having some experience with the system, there's no guarantee that he'll end up with any significant punishment, or he may go to soccer jail for an extended period of time.

Depending on what was actually said and done, and how many credible witnesses there are to the specific allegations, they can hold a hearing, suspend him for a year, then 366 days later, they can't guarantee that when he hit's the pitch that he won't do the same thing all over again.

Ball head, the incident happened to my dd on Friday. The league promised they will make sure it won't happen again to any kid. They were busy on Friday and the idiot did similar stuff to a different kid. The mom confronted the idiot after the kid came concerned at the end of the gane. The league promised he will be kicked out if he repeats what he did Friday. So, I made sure I contacted the folks and asked the mom to talk to them as well. I am assuming the league is concerned about his actions. At the sometime, he is really good on bashing anyone on this forum and may be concerned what damaze he can do to their business.

Typo. Did similar stuff to a different kid on Saturday. I meant.

So the league has issued this guy a Scarlet I or what?