Age pure??

by 9withak 13/07/15, 09:03 am

What ever happened to the talks of NTX going age pure at some point? Does anyone know if this will happen or not?

by Guest 13/07/15, 09:11 am

Tell me more about this interesting topic.

by BurnOnYou 13/07/15, 10:45 am

That is a Gordian knot that should rank at the bottom of priorities for LHGCL to tackle. Benefits as many as it disrupts.
Every single team would have to be reorganized. The turmoil would cause clubs to set their collective heads of hair on fire.
Ultimately they will play with their classmates in HS so I don't see the benefits that outweigh the downsides...

by NorthDallasSoccer 14/07/15, 11:05 pm

BurnOnYou wrote:That is a Gordian knot that should rank at the bottom of priorities for LHGCL to tackle. Benefits as many as it disrupts.
Every single team would have to be reorganized. The turmoil would cause clubs to set their collective heads of hair on fire.
Ultimately they will play with their classmates in HS so I don't see the benefits that outweigh the downsides...

Amen!!

by Lefty 15/07/15, 07:09 am

In the end, guess most peoples point of view depends on where their DD's birthday falls.

There are plenty of examples of girls playing 'below their grade' because of where their birthday falls, but not many examples of girls playing 'above their grade' though there are a few out there.

Most people want their DD to have the age advantage, but if they are concerned about her development, they can always have her play up.

by Guest 15/07/15, 07:54 am

Lefty wrote:In the end, guess most peoples point of view depends on where their DD's birthday falls.

There are plenty of examples of girls playing 'below their grade' because of where their birthday falls, but not many examples of girls playing 'above their grade' though there are a few out there.

Most people want their DD to have the age advantage, but if they are concerned about her development, they can always have her play up.

That's the case on in most of these topics we discuss.

by 10sDad 15/07/15, 03:15 pm

is ECNL age pure?

by Guest 15/07/15, 04:59 pm

No, but will be. It's been on their FAQs for years that calendar year is their preference. All this should make that happen for them in the future.

by totalfootball 15/07/15, 08:59 pm

Yawn...
4 -5 years is too long to wait for anything to happen

by Guest 15/07/15, 09:01 pm

Well, that's about when the 06s will be ECNL age unless ECNL goes younger.

by JE5 23/07/15, 01:12 pm

This will happen. It's not in writing yet but it will affect the 07 teams. Playing formats will also be changing.

by Gunner9 23/07/15, 01:17 pm

Agreed. I would hope NTSSA lifts the restriction on U10's playing select the first year. At least for the the first few age groups that will be impacted.

by timmyh 23/07/15, 01:31 pm

totalfootball wrote:Yawn...
4 -5 years is too long to wait for anything to happen

Looks like it is indeed happening in 2017 for all age groups.

by Gambit 23/07/15, 01:52 pm

JE5 wrote:This will happen. It's not in writing yet but it will affect the 07 teams. Playing formats will also be changing.

How will it affect the 07 teams? What does this mean? 06 year players playing on 07 teams are going to have to play 06? and if that's the case, does that mean that 06s are still going to be Aug 05-Dec 06?

by timmyh 23/07/15, 02:01 pm

Gambit wrote:
JE5 wrote:This will happen. It's not in writing yet but it will affect the 07 teams. Playing formats will also be changing.

How will it affect the 07 teams? What does this mean? 06 year players playing on 07 teams are going to have to play 06? and if that's the case, does that mean that 06s are still going to be Aug 05-Dec 06?

'06s play with '06s (or play up to '05). '07s with '07s...'02's with '02s...'09s with '09s...'01s with '01s...etc.
If you want to keep a team completely together, then the Jan-July birthdays can play up a year.

by JE5 23/07/15, 02:10 pm

Gambit I had the exact same question as you. Waiting on an answer.

by Gambit 23/07/15, 02:53 pm

So this is going to affect 06s, not starting at the 07 age then as previously stated....

by Gambit 23/07/15, 02:57 pm

timmyh wrote:
Gambit wrote:
JE5 wrote:This will happen. It's not in writing yet but it will affect the 07 teams. Playing formats will also be changing.

How will it affect the 07 teams? What does this mean? 06 year players playing on 07 teams are going to have to play 06? and if that's the case, does that mean that 06s are still going to be Aug 05-Dec 06?

'06s play with '06s (or play up to '05). '07s with '07s...'02's with '02s...'09s with '09s...'01s with '01s...etc.
If you want to keep a team completely together, then the Jan-July birthdays can play up a year.

Ok, I got it, you could keep a whole team together, but you have to then establish yourself as a 05 team, as opposed to an 06 team... so every team could have 1/1/05-7/31/06 players.... is this exception only limited to one age group, or are they going to officially allow playing up all the way through qualifying now for players? Any news on that?

by timmyh 23/07/15, 03:08 pm

Gambit wrote:
timmyh wrote:
Gambit wrote:
JE5 wrote:This will happen. It's not in writing yet but it will affect the 07 teams. Playing formats will also be changing.

How will it affect the 07 teams? What does this mean? 06 year players playing on 07 teams are going to have to play 06? and if that's the case, does that mean that 06s are still going to be Aug 05-Dec 06?

'06s play with '06s (or play up to '05). '07s with '07s...'02's with '02s...'09s with '09s...'01s with '01s...etc.
If you want to keep a team completely together, then the Jan-July birthdays can play up a year.

Ok, I got it, you could keep a whole team together, but you have to then establish yourself as a 05 team, as opposed to an 06 team... so every team could have 1/1/05-7/31/06 players.... is this exception only limited to one age group, or are they going to officially allow playing up all the way through qualifying now for players? Any news on that?

Yes. This is going to affect every team at every age. Previous speculation that it would start with the '06s or '07s with older groups grandfathered in was apparently off base. Every age group from U8 to U18 goes calendar year in 2017.
To answer your question, as always, a player can play up an age group. But i assume most early year birthdays will pay age true and be more dominant than play up a year with their "current team."

by timmyh 23/07/15, 03:13 pm

Dont know if the rules allowing playups for first year of select will change or not. My assumption is that it will just to allow teams to stay together if they so choose, but i am fairly sure we are to early in the process for that determination to be made.

by 46&2 23/07/15, 08:43 pm

Source for this info, or are we just wildly speculating again?

by Guest 23/07/15, 09:48 pm

Source is USSF approved it July 5th. There is a source document circulating. NTSSA has spoken to some at the clubs I am hearing but trying to figure out implementation before officially announcing.

This is happening, no longer speculation.

by lulu22 24/07/15, 08:16 am

USSF Document:
http://www.calsouth.com/data/Root/CSGEmailBlasts/PlayerDevelopmentInitiatives-Approved07052015.pdf?utm_source=website+list&udm_medium=email&utm_term=email-link&utm_content=html&utm_campaign=USSF+Player+Development+Initiatives

by jogobonito06 24/07/15, 08:49 am

Interesting that USSF feels U8 players are still developing "basic motor skills such as walking, running and changing direction."

It's in line with the National coaching license courses currently being taught. While I'm all in favor of the move to 9v9, I think the premise that they use to build the standards does not give enough credit to what kids are capable of doing. With and without a ball.

Most 7 and 8 yr olds have figured out that walking thing. Rolling Eyes

by Guest 24/07/15, 08:58 am

I agree with that. Would love to see 7v7 for U7s and U8s.

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