Jan '06- July'06- go select or stay academy?

Soccer Point Guard wrote:I don't think '06s will be weak. As parents look to make moves, the good players will rise to the top. '06 platinum will be strong, the gap between platinum and gold will be even wider though.

'05 D1 will be ridiculously weak, especially if it's 20 teams.

Respectful disagreement...

Practical Application… Tomorrows ‘05 division / (class) is essentially Todays ‘05 & ‘06 players (for the most part).  The 05’s who have been competing in today’s ‘06 class will essentially be playing against the ‘05 kids they have currently been competing against.  I state this because all of the TOP ‘06 teams and many mid-level teams spent a good portion of their previous development time playing in the ‘05 girls and boys classes.  If you follow the logic of iron sharpens iron and you believe the current ‘06 class is very strong here in NTX, as is the current ’05 class, then what you will have is a shift in the eccentric classes of the decade (from ’06 & ’05 to  ’04 & ’05).  The shame is the direction the proposed rulings seem to be headed based on the meetings this week.  If NO Flexibility or CHOICE is given to the PURE AGE ’06 then that decision comes off as punitive in nature.  The TOP AGE PURE ’06 players will go from training, playing, and developing game competition awareness against essentially ’04 & ’05 players today to ’07 players tomorrow. That is where the train runs off the track for me…  The intent or spirit of the moves US Youth Soccer is trying to identify with is creating more dynamic well rounded players.  If you follow the logic that the reasoning behind the seemingly mature development of the NTX  ’05 &’06 classes compared to players and play around the country (i.e. Super Copa and Surf Cup as examples), are direct results of increased small sided play and playing up, then why would you eliminate that opportunity for the ’06 player to have the choice of continuing to do so?  Furthermore stifling that opportunity goes against the spirit of what the intended purpose is supposed to be about plus it negatively impacts any’06 worthy of and willing to play up. It’s a penalty and punitive to that player and it creates a “wasted” year for those Top AGE PURE ’06 player who desire to play up. If the focus is development and developing a more balanced well round player and the NTX ’06 class has already embarked down that road by already focusing heavily on small sided play and playing up, why interrupt what has gotten us to the lead? Train is off the track! Must not just be about Development, there must be another agenda at play or the wrong folks are calling the shots! My opinions only!  Food for thought! No ’06 DD in the race!

AtThePitch wrote:That bylaw is intended to mean u11 and 12... call it a typo.

There is an 05 that signed with srsa 03 this summer.  As an example.

jogobonito07 wrote:

AtThePitch wrote:The issue isn't the initiative. The rule about playing up is simply a NTX rule, some other areas may have it, but I know not all.  

The ones that carried the most weight were the big dogs.

Still don't see what the motivation to keep this arbitrary rule is.  Usually in NTX you just follow the $$.  In this case the big dogs are turning away $3k per 06 kid who wanted to play up with their existing team.

Did anyone speak in favor of the existing rule at the meeting?

Elpistolero wrote:She is an early 04 born kid

AtThePitch wrote:That bylaw is intended to mean u11 and 12... call it a typo.

There is an 05 that signed with srsa 03 this summer.  As an example.

yellowcard5 wrote:No, the bylaw is written exactly the way it was intended to be written.  By using the term U12 what they are essentially saying is that no one will be allowed to play up until they have completed (or their proper age group has completed) one year of select soccer at U11.  

It is written very deliberately and restricts exactly what it is trying to restrict.  As for an 05 (if she really is an 05) signing for SRSA 03, that is just fine, but she won't be playing in any LHGCL league games, which is run under NTX Soccer guidelines.  

yellowcard5 wrote:I am hearing and seeing a lot of ideas on this forum, but it's going to take a whole lot more than that to change anything.  

If some are clearly as upset as they lead us to believe, then I see no reason whey a group of 100, 200, 300 parents couldn't demand a meeting with NTX and communicate their concerns.  Until this happens then don't expect anything to change.  

Someone get it going.  Online petition, meeting with NTX board, etc...who is going to take the lead?

jogobonito07 wrote:

yellowcard5 wrote:No, the bylaw is written exactly the way it was intended to be written.  By using the term U12 what they are essentially saying is that no one will be allowed to play up until they have completed (or their proper age group has completed) one year of select soccer at U11.  

It is written very deliberately and restricts exactly what it is trying to restrict.  As for an 05 (if she really is an 05) signing for SRSA 03, that is just fine, but she won't be playing in any LHGCL league games, which is run under NTX Soccer guidelines.  

This is incorrect.  A player may play up as SOON as that player reaches the allowable competitive age (U11).  Not after a year.  I know some players quite well that joined a U12 team as soon as they became U11.

The bylaws are written that way because the official age groups are every 2 years.  U12 is simply an umbrella to cover U11 and U12.