Jan '06- July'06- go select or stay academy?

Sho'nuff wrote:So, you're telling me there's a chance?

A chance of what?
As of right now until age pure is implemented the Jan-July are going select so that has to change first. We all know it's coming it's when not if.
AGM January is when we will all find out.

If you had sent a representative to the meeting yesterday good sir you might know a bit more...

If what was stated earlier in this thread is true and there were no reps from the small clubs, except for Kicks...

well, that is half the damn problem right there.

Triumph FC wrote:So let's clear all this up
North Texas wasn't a meeting but a discussion. Triumph wasn't there as I was traveling back from Huntington Beach with the 03's
Nothing will be voted on until the AGM
U10's are not allowed to play up now so nothing will change if it gets voted out.
If age pure doesn't come in until mandated in 2017 then the Jan-July 06's are going select
Of course wouldn't make sense for a year then told you now of a choice to replay your U11 year of select.
It's all if's but's and what's right now and until that changes then there is nothing to write about unless people want to scaremonger

No disrespect, but what you just said is clear as "mud".

We are aligned no change on the rule that does not allow U10 to play up. Clear!

Again, sorry, but the rest of your post is confusing. Next year, which is 2016 not 2017, AP will take affect. There are no "ifs" about the change at this point.

Skeets where has anyone said age pure is going to be implemented? I totally think it will in 2016 don't get me wrong but someone has to say so officially and I haven't seen that happen

Triumph FC wrote:Skeets where has anyone said age pure is going to be implemented? I totally think it will in 2016 don't get me wrong but someone has to say so officially and I haven't seen that happen

Oh, I think I understand what you are say, which is "you have not seen it in writing".

So even though discussions with NTX are ongoing and the vast majority of the clubs are preparing now for implementation next year, you POV is until it is officially mandated you are not buying. Is that correct?

No it's officially mandated in 2017
I'm waiting for the AGM when I think they will officially rubber stamp the new age pure charts for 2016 here in North Texas only then will we know that the 05's and maybe the 06's (Jan-July) are going select. The 06's will only be allowed to go IF the rule is rewritten to allow them to play up

As a coach of 2 or more 06 teams, you might have the luxury of waiting until the cement dries sometime in January 2016, but as a parent of a Jan-July 06, that plays on a team w/majority 05's, I don't.

Call it a 'what if' or 'maybe' but NTX got a very clear picture of how our clubs feel about the existing rule based on the attendence and opinions expressed yesterday. What incentive do they have to implement change, when only 1 team speaks in favor of that?

My honest opinion, those that did not go favor the existing rule otherwise you wouldn't ignore an opportunity for change. If they could not attend personally, send someone in your place.

Where is the incentive for status quo on that rule? Aren't the clubs passing on $3k from each of those Jan-July 06's that would have gone select with their current team?

[quote="The_Dude"]As a coach of 2 or more 06 teams, you might have the luxury of waiting until the cement dries sometime in January 2016, but as a parent of a Jan-July 06, that plays on a team w/majority 05's, I don't.  

Call it a 'what if' or 'maybe' but NTX got a very clear picture of how our clubs feel about the existing rule based on the attendence and opinions expressed yesterday.  What incentive do they have to implement change, when only 1 team speaks in favor of that?  

My honest opinion, those that did not go favor the existing rule otherwise you wouldn't ignore an opportunity for change.  If they could not attend personally, send someone in your place.  (Quote)


I hear what you are saying but it could go either way. So you have a Jan-July 06 why would you leave based on something that might happen. If you leave then the coach more than likely will replace with another player (probably an 05 birthdate) what happens if they turn around and say 06's can play up then you've lost your spot. It's not tthe 06's that should be worried more like the 05's on a team which is mainly 06's! There are the ones that are going to scramble. Yes we can cope with either change with 28 05/06 players

I like you Mr. Triumph, but come on man....

I don't get why everyone is so jumpy. The 06's would have 18 months if the rule isn't changed and age pure is brought in so why would you want to leave your "06" team now to find an 06 age pure team unless you didn't want to go select next summer anyway. That would be the only reason. We have informed our parents of the upcoming changes and will keep them updated when it's official not act on a discussion meeting that might not have any bearing when the vote happens in January, until then it's all speculation
I'm just glad I don't see anyone running around with "the worlds coming to an end" placards otherwise parents might have something to worry about

Now I get why Churchill needed our help.

No it was because you relaxing in Pearl Harbour

I think you should stay away from the Pearl Harbor jokes.

Triumph FC wrote:No it was because you relaxing in Pearl Harbour

like i said, I like you man...

but its time to just move on here folks.

Theoretically, yes anything is possible.  Had more teams showed yesterday & asked for change then that theory might carry a little more weight.. but that didn't happen.

I don't see the difference between a team that is front loaded with fall/winter 05's or winter/spring 06's. In either scenario, the minority is forced to look for a new home which is never fun. I'm not saying everyone or anyone should abandon ship immediately, instead be prepared for what appears to be the most probable outcome in January, that's all.

Dude, Triumph will have room on his '06 3v3 team.

The_Dude wrote:Theoretically, yes anything is possible.  Had more teams showed yesterday & asked for change then that theory might carry a little more weight.. but that didn't happen.

I don't see the difference between a team that is front loaded with fall/winter 05's or winter/spring 06's.  In either scenario, the minority is forced to look for a new home which is never fun.  I'm not saying everyone or anyone should abandon ship immediately, instead be prepared for what appears to be the most probable outcome in January, that's all.

Absolutely correct although you are in a much better place if your team is predominantly 05's

Sho'nuff wrote:Dude, Triumph will have room on his '06 3v3 team.

Already know of 8 that are playing 06 with us should that take effect. The others want to play up so we shall see.

Triumph FC wrote:Absolutely correct although you are in a much better place if your team is predominantly 05's

I don't think my DD will see it that way at all.

ShoNuff, i see you still got the glow. HaHa

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

planogirl wrote:

jm23jm wrote:

uknowme wrote:Skeets is right.   06s will NOT not be allowed to play up their first year of select.  Confirmed via NTX meeting today.  Every club had one affiliate their.  Ask JM he was there.  Ask Audrey she was there, etc.  

Every club was not present.  I don't think Fever, TX Spirit, Triumph, Dfeeters to name a few were there.  I think I was the only person to voice their opinion that 06's should be able to play up with 05's. The majority felt U10 players should not be allowed the option to play up.   In the end, I was only one voice.  I think NTX got this one wrong but it is what it is.  I think other leagues will pop up that will allow 06's to play up.  

I also think this is going to hurt smaller clubs/independent teams.  I think our 05's and 06's will be fine. I think I have enough interest to form 05 and 06 AP teams.    

Juan, if you can move your practice up to north, I am sure you can attract a lot of talents. Please consider it :-)

I second that, from an admirer from afar.  Too far for practice currently, but bring it north, and I have an AP 06 ready to join, and she can bring friends.  

There are several parents and players that travel from up north on the current roster. The training and soccer instruction your DD will get is definitely worth the drive.
Better still, between your DD and her friends, and planogirl's DD,  a nice carpool could be in the works.

Good point. OK, I'm sold, so where are the practices again, Moneygram?

Better yet, form a Kicks North AP 06... you only need 10 kids for 7v7 next fall.

Triumph FC wrote:I don't get why everyone is so jumpy. The 06's would have 18 months if the rule isn't changed and age pure is brought in so why would you want to leave your "06" team now to find an 06 age pure team unless you didn't want to go select next summer anyway. That would be the only reason. We have informed our parents of the upcoming changes and will keep them updated when it's official not act on a discussion meeting that might not have any bearing when the vote happens in January, until then it's all speculation
I'm just glad I don't see anyone running around with "the worlds coming to an end" placards otherwise parents might have something to worry about

People are jumpy for the following reasons:
1) Per yesterday's discussion/meeting, NTX will NOT vote, to change the existing rule preventing U10 from playing up.
2) Most large clubs (Texans, Sting, FCD, Solar) and some smaller clubs are posting they are looking for AP 05,06, 07, etc. now.
3) Some clubs have already started AP teams.
4) People want to ensure their child has a spot on a team of their choice. With 05' playing 9v9, 06' playing 7v7, etc. there are not a lot of spots.

So, in light of those reasons, people are jumpy depending on the birthdate of their child and/or the make up of their team.

-If a team is heavy mix of Aug-Dec born kids, the Jan-July born kids will need to find a different team whether it is with the existing club or not.
-If a team is heavy mix of Jan-July born kids, the Aug-Dec kids will have to find a different team.
-If a team is balanced with Jan-July and Aug-Dec kids, decisions have to be made/coordinated regarding the existing teams next step.

A wait and see approach is not wise to say the least.

All TRUE

Just for the record, NTX's invitation to the discussion yesterday didn't make it to Fever. We would have loved a chance to voice our opinions on the topic. Yes, we are advertising for an AP 06 team because we have two 06 teams and an 07 team (that is almost exclusively AP already) and at 7 v 7 we could form another AP 06 team with just 1 to 2 more.

Our parents would like to have the choice of either going select or repeating their U10 year, and we've sent a request to NTX for them to have another discussion group with small clubs to hear their opinions on the issue before making a decision.