WHO IS SOLAR RED?

Packrabbit wrote:

SOCCER TRUTH wrote:This CPP thread is getting old.  If your child doesn't like to compete against the very best, then pull them out of soccer and save your $$.

Get real!!

Soccer Truth,
I doubt this is you 1st post...Considering that you are unable to ignore this thread, the tenor and lack of depth of your comment, as well as your unwillingness to use your correct alias to publish your cheap shot, I must assume some negative things about you. Therefore, I will speak frankly with you.

Lance Armstrong's need to be the best, pushed him to cheat; the fact everyone was doing it his justified his actions; to defend his behavior, he attacked, bullied and demeaned those who questioned his lack of transparency. Since I have always despised bullies and find your alias inappropriate, I shall call you Lance:

Lance,

Clueless, with class and patientce, explained in detail, her part of the process and used humor to express his/her frustration. You chose to assume (aloud), us liberal whiners, whose DD's are lesser soccer players who need protection from competition, when you should not. In fact, you should assume my DD has kicked your DDs azz on the field and also fully capable of doing so off of it; twice that for her old man.

First, all organized sports that demand honor and transparency from its member. It's unseemly when those with vested interest mock and ridicule honest debate about transparency. My opinion:

1-I do not blame the LHGCL board for this issue.
2-I understood, supported and defended the rule as a good player development tool, until its blatant bastardization last year, when the rule was used to corner D1 standings.
3- Right and Wrong should not be determined by what is beneficial;
4- Proclamations that CPP's spirit is not being violated are disingenuous. The rule is for player development, not artificially impacting league standings.
5- Solar has been on the receiving end of these shenanigans and is finally reponding in full.

Lance, no thread is not worth heartache or aggravation... If you are unable to change your mind with new information or verbalized why that CPP isn't being abused for standing, then I suggest you move onto a new thread.

Blank77 wrote:

Packrabbit wrote:

SOCCER TRUTH wrote:This CPP thread is getting old.  If your child doesn't like to compete against the very best, then pull them out of soccer and save your $$.

Get real!!

Soccer Truth,
I doubt this is you 1st post...Considering that you are unable to ignore this thread, the tenor and lack of depth of your comment, as well as your unwillingness to use your correct alias to publish your cheap shot, I must assume some negative things about you. Therefore, I will speak frankly with you.

Lance Armstrong's need to be the best, pushed him to cheat; the fact everyone was doing it his justified his actions; to defend his behavior, he attacked, bullied and demeaned those who questioned his lack of transparency. Since I have always despised bullies and find your alias inappropriate, I shall call you Lance:

Lance,

Clueless, with class and patientce, explained in detail, her part of the process and used humor to express his/her frustration. You chose to assume (aloud), us liberal whiners, whose DD's are lesser soccer players who need protection from competition, when you should not. In fact, you should assume my DD has kicked your DDs azz on the field and also fully capable of doing so off of it; twice that for her old man.

First, all organized sports that demand honor and transparency from its member. It's unseemly when those with vested interest mock and ridicule honest debate about transparency. My opinion:

1-I do not blame the LHGCL board for this issue.
2-I understood, supported and defended the rule as a good player development tool, until its blatant bastardization last year, when the rule was used to corner D1 standings.
3- Right and Wrong should not be determined by what is beneficial;
4- Proclamations that CPP's spirit is not being violated are disingenuous. The rule is for player development, not artificially impacting league standings.
5- Solar has been on the receiving end of these shenanigans and is finally reponding in full.

Lance, no thread is not worth heartache or aggravation... If you are unable to change your mind with new information or verbalized why that CPP isn't being abused for standing, then I suggest you move onto a new thread.

Tldr: my dd can beat up your dd

OLJW wrote:I applaud your honesty. I think you are correct, except for the fact that LHGCL has a responsibility to represent 100% of the league, not 54% of the league.

bwgophers wrote:There are only 2 numbers that are relevant to this whole entire discussion...  54 and 73.

54 = % of all teams in 2015/2016 LHGCL that are from the 5 NTX ECNL Clubs
73 = % of all D1 teams in 2015/2016 LHGCL that are from the 5 NTX ECNL Clubs

Whether you like it or not, the ECNL Clubs hold all of the leverage.  The relationship between LHGCL and the ECNL clubs is a marriage of convenience.  LHGCL needs the ECNL Clubs to stay relevant and the ECNL Clubs have the benefit of not having to directly administer their own local NTX league.

If LHGCL stops catering to the ECNL clubs, at what point do the ECNL clubs decide that it's better to just go off and form their own 5 club NTX league, for all of their 2nd and 3rd tier teams to play in?

No one should be surprised that these loopholes exist, and that clubs take advantage of them.  I'm not saying that it's fair, I'm saying that it's the reality.

Now if your DD is NOT part of one of the ECNL clubs, ask yourself which is better?  My DD's team playing in a league that has rules that provide advantage to the ECNL clubs, or a league that doesn't have such rules, but also doesn't have any teams from the ECNL clubs in it (keeping in mind the numbers 54 and 73, and what it would do to the overall quality of the league if those numbers suddenly became 0 and 0)?

I'm sure some will say the latter, but I'm guessing many more will say the former.

Packrabbit wrote:

bwgophers wrote:There are only 2 numbers that are relevant to this whole entire discussion...  54 and 73.

54 = % of all teams in 2015/2016 LHGCL that are from the 5 NTX ECNL Clubs
73 = % of all D1 teams in 2015/2016 LHGCL that are from the 5 NTX ECNL Clubs

Whether you like it or not, the ECNL Clubs hold all of the leverage.  The relationship between LHGCL and the ECNL clubs is a marriage of convenience.  LHGCL needs the ECNL Clubs to stay relevant and the ECNL Clubs have the benefit of not having to directly administer their own local NTX league.

If LHGCL stops catering to the ECNL clubs, at what point do the ECNL clubs decide that it's better to just go off and form their own 5 club NTX league, for all of their 2nd and 3rd tier teams to play in?

No one should be surprised that these loopholes exist, and that clubs take advantage of them.  I'm not saying that it's fair, I'm saying that it's the reality.

Now if your DD is NOT part of one of the ECNL clubs, ask yourself which is better?  My DD's team playing in a league that has rules that provide advantage to the ECNL clubs, or a league that doesn't have such rules, but also doesn't have any teams from the ECNL clubs in it (keeping in mind the numbers 54 and 73, and what it would do to the overall quality of the league if those numbers suddenly became 0 and 0)?

I'm sure some will say the latter, but I'm guessing many more will say the former.

BW, thanks for the great info. Looking at the scheduling, I get the impression that LH is trying to mitigate the abuse. As far as the top 5 (or 4 + little sister), Unless there is further consolidation, I can't see any of he clubs trusting each other enough to form their own league,but I guess anything is possible.  

What are your thoughts about the boys' side: does not the same club concentration exist there? Unless changed recently, the CPP there is much tighter, isn't it?

OLJW wrote:I applaud your honesty. I think you are correct, except for the fact that LHGCL has a responsibility to represent 100% of the league, not 54% of the league.

SOCCER TRUTH wrote:Pack,
I seem to have struck a chord.  Interesting response...took me a few cups of java to get through...have to admit.

As far as Lance A, I'm not a fan either...so I embrace your passion.

SOCCER TRUTH wrote:
As for N Tex soccer and it's rules, let's just let the girls compete.  Life is filled with ups and downs...wins and losses...defeats and triumphs.

SOCCER TRUTH wrote:
There is always PPL.