Re: 05 JDL

by TatonkaBurger 04/05/17, 08:44 am

BigErn wrote:
BBB -- You Sir have become the court jester of this forum ... Congratulations!

That is too high of a compliment. You are too nice Biggie

by Big Boy Bentley 04/05/17, 08:46 am

Living the dream burgerboy...you and BigEm must eat at the same MCDs

by Guest 04/05/17, 09:03 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:Alllllll this....for our daughters NOT to make the national team.
For our daughters collegiate teammates to have played on a lower level and be awarded the same scholarship.
For our daughters to decide they'd rather be a cheerleader, play volleyball, run track, softball, and or have a steady boyfriend.
All these leagues and academies are for us parents to buy into and relay the "significance" to our children.

Im not denying that there wont be a star or two that will emerge from the NTX soccer landscape, but what are the odds? seriously....what are the odds?

We're just living in the moment.

Worse than 1 in 10,000.

by ColtMcVince 04/05/17, 09:06 am

one day, my daughter will be able to kick a soccer ball over them mountains.

by TatonkaBurger 04/05/17, 09:37 am

BigboyBentley wrote:Living the dream burgerboy...you and BigEm must eat at the same MCDs

You must spend your days at the same public library.

by Zizou 04/05/17, 09:48 am

OLJW wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:Alllllll this....for our daughters NOT to make the national team.
For our daughters collegiate teammates to have played on a lower level and be awarded the same scholarship.
For our daughters to decide they'd rather be a cheerleader, play volleyball, run track, softball, and or have a steady boyfriend.
All these leagues and academies are for us parents to buy into and relay the "significance" to our children.

Im not denying that there wont be a star or two that will emerge from the NTX soccer landscape, but what are the odds? seriously....what are the odds?

We're just living in the moment.

Worse than 1 in 10,000.

For these reasons you have stated is why leagues and divisions have been teered. In going through the DA process as we speak. Their are girls choosing DA over high school. The important issue here is that girls are given a choice to pursue soccer and the level that fits their priorities and needs. Hence multiple leagues and levels to participate in.

by ColtMcVince 04/05/17, 10:11 am

From my perspective, the fallacy here is making a 12 year old decide what he/she wants to do several years from now. I get what you are saying and there likely isn't a right answer, but DA at 12 is more often than not a kid pleasing the parent more so than it is a true passion. Once they figure out they can start making decisions on their own and not be worried about what dumb old dad wants, that's when it will become clear whether the decision made at 12 was the correct one.

by AngelinaGoalee 04/05/17, 10:11 am

Zizou wrote:
OLJW wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:Alllllll this....for our daughters NOT to make the national team.
For our daughters collegiate teammates to have played on a lower level and be awarded the same scholarship.
For our daughters to decide they'd rather be a cheerleader, play volleyball, run track, softball, and or have a steady boyfriend.
All these leagues and academies are for us parents to buy into and relay the "significance" to our children.

Im not denying that there wont be a star or two that will emerge from the NTX soccer landscape, but what are the odds? seriously....what are the odds?

We're just living in the moment.

Worse than 1 in 10,000.

For these reasons you have stated is why leagues and divisions have been teered. In going through the DA process as we speak. Their are girls choosing DA over high school. The important issue here is that girls are given a choice to pursue soccer and the level that fits their priorities and needs. Hence multiple leagues and levels to participate in.

Yeah...in high school.....
but 6th grade? I thought 6th grade was all about making slime?

Im going to be patient and see how the landscape levels out before I hunker down on an opinion.

but i have another serious question....
Are the coaches that were only select coaches going to train differently with an "ECNL Coach" title? Same for ECNL coaches promoted to "DA Coach."
Are they required to further their licensing? If they were equipped to develop at a higher level then why would they wait until getting a higher title to do so?

There aren't any college professors with only an associates degree are there?

by AngelinaGoalee 04/05/17, 10:12 am

ColtMcVince wrote:From my perspective, the fallacy here is making a 12 year old decide what he/she wants to do several years from now. I get what you are saying and there likely isn't a right answer, but DA at 12 is more often than not a kid pleasing the parent more so than it is a true passion. Once they figure out they can start making decisions on their own and not be worried about what dumb old dad wants, that's when it will become clear whether the decision made at 12 was the correct one.

my sentiments...exactly.

by AngelinaGoalee 04/05/17, 10:16 am

Im not yet buying it but i will participate...
shucks....I don't want my daughters teammates dad who I consume libations with on the sideline to move on to higher pastures without me....i need them bragging rights too don't I?

by SickofStupidity 04/05/17, 10:20 am

Zizou wrote:
OLJW wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:Alllllll this....for our daughters NOT to make the national team.
For our daughters collegiate teammates to have played on a lower level and be awarded the same scholarship.
For our daughters to decide they'd rather be a cheerleader, play volleyball, run track, softball, and or have a steady boyfriend.
All these leagues and academies are for us parents to buy into and relay the "significance" to our children.

Im not denying that there wont be a star or two that will emerge from the NTX soccer landscape, but what are the odds? seriously....what are the odds?

We're just living in the moment.

Worse than 1 in 10,000.

For these reasons you have stated is why leagues and divisions have been teered. In going through the DA process as we speak. Their are girls choosing DA over high school. The important issue here is that girls are given a choice to pursue soccer and the level that fits their priorities and needs. Hence multiple leagues and levels to participate in.

because tiering wasn't available under the old system - you know, ECNL, LHGCL, PPL, High School, etc.

Under the new system, 1 in 10,000 will have a chance to play on a USWNT, the top players will be coached by the best coaches, girls will actually play in leagues / tournaments where they can get exposure to DI college coaches (maybe even get a scholarship), and the masses who have no such aspirations can actually play with girls that are in their grade.

or was that under the old system?

Seriously - who could dispute that under the new system, coaches will undoubtedly be even better now with a DA tag instead of an ECNL tag, development will be improved by shifting to calendar-year teams, and more travel teams / exposure / cost is well worth it for #s 100-200 given how much better the Houston / Austin / OK soccer talent is than Dallas.

by AngelinaGoalee 04/05/17, 10:31 am

SickofSilliness wrote:
Zizou wrote:
OLJW wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:Alllllll this....for our daughters NOT to make the national team.
For our daughters collegiate teammates to have played on a lower level and be awarded the same scholarship.
For our daughters to decide they'd rather be a cheerleader, play volleyball, run track, softball, and or have a steady boyfriend.
All these leagues and academies are for us parents to buy into and relay the "significance" to our children.

Im not denying that there wont be a star or two that will emerge from the NTX soccer landscape, but what are the odds? seriously....what are the odds?

We're just living in the moment.

Worse than 1 in 10,000.

For these reasons you have stated is why leagues and divisions have been teered. In going through the DA process as we speak. Their are girls choosing DA over high school. The important issue here is that girls are given a choice to pursue soccer and the level that fits their priorities and needs. Hence multiple leagues and levels to participate in.

because tiering wasn't available under the old system - you know, ECNL, LHGCL, PPL, High School, etc.

Under the new system, 1 in 10,000 will have a chance to play on a USWNT, the top players will be coached by the best coaches, girls will actually play in leagues / tournaments where they can get exposure to DI college coaches (maybe even get a scholarship), and the masses who have no such aspirations can actually play with girls that are in their grade.

or was that under the old system?

Seriously - who could dispute that under the new system, coaches will undoubtedly be even better now with a DA tag instead of an ECNL tag, development will be improved by shifting to calendar-year teams, and more travel teams / exposure / cost is well worth it for #s 100-200 given how much better the Houston / Austin / OK soccer talent is than Dallas.

Hey...guess Im not alone in my views.

I think the girls who dont make the DA will feel the same way the girls who didnt make ECNL this past year felt. They'll have to settle for ECNL like they did composite teams. always the bridesmaid and never the bride.

by SickofStupidity 04/05/17, 10:33 am

They will "settle" for ECNL

And their parents will "settle" for the associated costs

by TatonkaBurger 04/05/17, 10:49 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Are the coaches that were only select coaches going to train differently with an "ECNL Coach" title? Same for ECNL coaches promoted to "DA Coach."

The USSDA doesn't make the coaches any better. We all know who they are and know the limits to their skills. Do not pretend that Coach [blank] who was a mediocre select or ECNL coach can now get your daughter to the USWNT.

by Big Boy Bentley 04/05/17, 11:48 am

For 15K you can hope to play in college per year...I will stick to the LH and ODP route burgerboy.....

by TatonkaBurger 04/05/17, 11:56 am

BigboyBentley wrote:For 15K you can hope to play in college per year...I will stick to the LH and ODP route burgerboy.....

Thanks for the update

by Big Boy Bentley 05/05/17, 06:42 am

I want to be a DA Rockstar like BigEM...Boom!!!!!

by Lakedad 05/05/17, 07:47 am

BigboyBentley wrote:For 15K you can hope to play in college per year...I will stick to the LH and ODP route burgerboy.....

15K a year for college? Maybe if you go to a community college or UTA. Big's will run 30K a year. Privates (SMU, Baylor) will run upwards of 50K

by Big Boy Bentley 05/05/17, 07:48 am

I want to be a DA Rockstar too......Boom

by KeeperCommander 29/09/17, 09:55 am

So where do the 05 JDL girls go from here? Will they try and qualify into LH and stay together or disperse to other more appealing teams like ECNL or DA. My guess is they tried that already and were put on JDL team. After this year is over that is.

by TxFutbal 29/09/17, 10:10 am

There are a ton of choices.. Sky is the limit. That is what is great about living in USA.

by KeeperCommander 29/09/17, 10:17 am

2000 choices huh? For a player coming out of the most "developmental" league ever? No man there is 2. One if you listen to the whackos.

by TxFutbal 29/09/17, 10:35 am

Well.. If the girls love their team and teammates and want to stay together then they can:
1. goto QT and sweat it out in July/August to earn a spot in LHGCL
2. goto Primetime, PPL, APL
3. Try to get the team in Champions League

Some girls who have developed in JDL and have the skills may be able to move to an ECNL team or DA.

Some girls may want to stay in the same club and fullfill an opening on a D1 LH team. Some may want to change clubs and goto a team in a different club at the D1 level, or tryout for an ECNL or DA team at a different club. Some may want to take a gap year and just concentrate on skills and give a skills trainer all their money..

Some may decide to play soccer for their middle school. I know a couple of girls who tried out for the boys soccer team and is killing it. Some may decide to quit soccer and tryout for the football, basketball, volleyball, track team. I even know a girl that became a rockstar football player in middle school. She may get out of sports altogether and decide to join the math club or science club and build robots or help Trump defeat the axes of evil by inventing something cool.

Again.. the choices are limitless. YOU may not like the choices, but your daughter has a ton of them to choose from.

by KeeperCommander 29/09/17, 10:47 am

TxFutbal wrote:Well.. If the girls love their team and teammates and want to stay together then they can:
1. goto QT and sweat it out in July/August to earn a spot in LHGCLTo be honest this is just about the only real choice if they stay together. Mainly because if they played JDL to play top comp then they can not justify going any lower the LH. PPL or APL please.
2. goto Primetime, PPL, APLAn option but not a good one.
3. Try to get the team in Champions League That is a head scratcher right there.

Some girls who have developed in JDL and have the skills may be able to move to an ECNL team or DA.

Some girls may want to stay in the same club and fullfill an opening on a D1 LH team. Some may want to change clubs and goto a team in a different club at the D1 level, or tryout for an ECNL or DA team at a different club. Some may want to take a gap year and just concentrate on skills and give a skills trainer all their money.. This is what I was getting to. I realize the actual options out there. Very well I might add. Just looking at it from another persons perspective. For most of these 05 girls in JDL the options are very slim because they obviously did not make ECNL or try for DA which is the only steps up.

Some may decide to play soccer for their middle school. I know a couple of girls who tried out for the boys soccer team and is killing it. Some may decide to quit soccer and tryout for the football, basketball, volleyball, track team. I even know a girl that became a rockstar football player in middle school. She may get out of sports altogether and decide to join the math club or science club and build robots or help Trump defeat the axes of evil by inventing something cool.

Again.. the choices are limitless. YOU may not like the choices, but your daughter has a ton of them to choose from.

My DD is not in JDL, I do not like the premise and the shifty changing ideals that it brings. Never has and never will be. Just my thoughts though.

by BigErn. 29/09/17, 10:55 am

KeeperCommander wrote:2000 choices huh? For a player coming out of the most "developmental" league ever? No man there is 2. One if you listen to the whackos.

You're right about that Kc there is only one league and it's DA. If you listen to the wackos they will talk about ecnl and lh but those aren't a real choice.

by Guest 29/09/17, 11:00 am

KeeperCommander wrote:
TxFutbal wrote:Well.. If the girls love their team and teammates and want to stay together then they can:
1. goto QT and sweat it out in July/August to earn a spot in LHGCLTo be honest this is just about the only real choice if they stay together. Mainly because if they played JDL to play top comp then they can not justify going any lower the LH. PPL or APL please.
2. goto Primetime, PPL, APLAn option but not a good one.
3. Try to get the team in Champions League That is a head scratcher right there.

Some girls who have developed in JDL and have the skills may be able to move to an ECNL team or DA.

Some girls may want to stay in the same club and fullfill an opening on a D1 LH team. Some may want to change clubs and goto a team in a different club at the D1 level, or tryout for an ECNL or DA team at a different club. Some may want to take a gap year and just concentrate on skills and give a skills trainer all their money.. This is what I was getting to. I realize the actual options out there. Very well I might add. Just looking at it from another persons perspective. For most of these 05 girls in JDL the options are very slim because they obviously did not make ECNL or try for DA which is the only steps up.

Some may decide to play soccer for their middle school. I know a couple of girls who tried out for the boys soccer team and is killing it. Some may decide to quit soccer and tryout for the football, basketball, volleyball, track team. I even know a girl that became a rockstar football player in middle school. She may get out of sports altogether and decide to join the math club or science club and build robots or help Trump defeat the axes of evil by inventing something cool.

Again.. the choices are limitless. YOU may not like the choices, but your daughter has a ton of them to choose from.
My DD is not in JDL, I do not like the premise and the shifty changing ideals that it brings. Never has and never will be. Just my thoughts though.

Better hope they find a spot with their current club in LH or TCL... otherwise they'll be coming to your DD's club to take her spot... affraid

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