Re: I took my kid to JDL because ern said to-what do I do now?

by Guest 05/02/18, 03:00 pm

JDL is a joke when used like it’s being used.

by Big Ern 05/02/18, 03:37 pm

Soccerscrub11 wrote:JDL is a joke when used like it’s being used. Drive N hour and play 6 minutes for one of the kids on the team.

Lovin' this stuff ^

So by this rationale, the entire league and concept is a "joke" because a coach allegedly played a kid only 6 minutes in a match. Smart.

Since you've written this as many times in the same thread as you have ... I'm sure it's some else's kid that got the shaft

Wink

by ColtMcVince 05/02/18, 03:41 pm

It’s a joke for many other reasons Big E. He’s just pointing out one of them.

by Big Ern 05/02/18, 03:43 pm

Ahhh ... gotcha.

What are the many other reasons?

(asking for a friend)

by Guest 05/02/18, 03:50 pm

No it’s a joke because some coaches treat it like real games and others use it the correct way. Coaches suppose to pool and pick a group and go. That way you can see some kids that are not necessarily on your normal team. Some clubs pull out all strings to win while others try kids in different positions. It actually was not my kid. It was another parents and the parent was livid. However, have been there before.

by ColtMcVince 05/02/18, 03:52 pm

1) positioning it as a developmental league where players will move around and tactics not considering outcome of game will be taught. Isn’t happening.
2). Playing games to win, in spite of the above, which limits player movement to other positions. (I.e forwards play forward and defenders play defense)
3) they don’t keep score.
4) the league has unnecessarily watered down the NTX player pool.
5) one of the NTX teams barely has enough players rostered to put forth a team and brings in hired guns to stay competitive.
6) when this league goes away, then what? (Back to the original title of this thread)

All of the above done apply to everyone but a few of my thoughts for ya.

by Big Ern 05/02/18, 04:06 pm

ColtMcVince wrote:1) positioning it as a developmental league where players will move around and tactics not considering outcome of game will be taught. Isn’t happening.

Seen it happen many times (as recently as yesterday in fact) ... both first hand and as an unbiased observer.

2). Playing games to win, in spite of the above, which limits player movement to other positions. (I.e forwards play forward and defenders play defense)

Surely you didn't expect some of the coaches and players wouldn't play to win did you? And see above.

3) they don’t keep score.

And? how is this at all relevant to your contention that JDL is a joke?

4) the league has unnecessarily watered down the NTX player pool.

How so? All of the participants are still in North Texas aren't they?

5) one of the NTX teams barely has enough players rostered to put forth a team and brings in hired guns to stay competitive.

And? Is this the fault of JDL or that particular club? Since you know the answer, how is this at all relevant to your argument?

6) when this league goes away, then what? (Back to the original title of this thread)

If it does, I'd guess the teams that are of age will generally make up the ECNL rosters at their respective clubs, and those that aren't of age, will play in LHGCL next year? What's your guess?

All of the above done apply to everyone but a few of my thoughts for ya.

by Big Ern 05/02/18, 04:08 pm

Soccerscrub11 wrote:No it’s a joke because some coaches treat it like real games and others use it the correct way. Coaches suppose to pool and pick a group and go. That way you can see some kids that are not necessarily on your normal team. Some clubs pull out all strings to win while others try kids in different positions. It actually was not my kid. It was another parents and the parent was livid. However, have been there before.

Hmmm ... Is that what you heard?

by Medicine Man 05/02/18, 04:30 pm

Pay to play it's working like clock work.

by coachdom23 05/02/18, 06:35 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:
coachdom23 wrote:JDL is no more? What happened?

The parents wanted to keep score.

What a shame. By using JDL to dip their toe in US Club waters, this was going to be LHGCL’s first step toward leaving NTSSA.

by timmyh 05/02/18, 08:26 pm

Big Ern wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:1) positioning it as a developmental league where players will move around and tactics not considering outcome of game will be taught. Isn’t happening.

Seen it happen many times (as recently as yesterday in fact) ... both first hand and as an unbiased observer.

2). Playing games to win, in spite of the above, which limits player movement to other positions. (I.e forwards play forward and defenders play defense)

Surely you didn't expect some of the coaches and players wouldn't play to win did you? And see above.

3) they don’t keep score.

And? how is this at all relevant to your contention that JDL is a joke?

4) the league has unnecessarily watered down the NTX player pool.

How so? All of the participants are still in North Texas aren't they?

5) one of the NTX teams barely has enough players rostered to put forth a team and brings in hired guns to stay competitive.

And? Is this the fault of JDL or that particular club? Since you know the answer, how is this at all relevant to your argument?

6) when this league goes away, then what? (Back to the original title of this thread)

If it does, I'd guess the teams that are of age will generally make up the ECNL rosters at their respective clubs, and those that aren't of age, will play in LHGCL next year? What's your guess?

All of the above done apply to everyone but a few of my thoughts for ya.

Whoda thunk BigErn would eventually become the most logical poster on the forum. Once again killing those pushing some preconceived angle or agenda.

by AngelinaGoalee 06/02/18, 09:19 am

timmyh wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:1) positioning it as a developmental league where players will move around and tactics not considering outcome of game will be taught. Isn’t happening.

Seen it happen many times (as recently as yesterday in fact) ... both first hand and as an unbiased observer.

2). Playing games to win, in spite of the above, which limits player movement to other positions. (I.e forwards play forward and defenders play defense)

Surely you didn't expect some of the coaches and players wouldn't play to win did you? And see above.

3) they don’t keep score.

And? how is this at all relevant to your contention that JDL is a joke?

4) the league has unnecessarily watered down the NTX player pool.

How so? All of the participants are still in North Texas aren't they?

5) one of the NTX teams barely has enough players rostered to put forth a team and brings in hired guns to stay competitive.

And? Is this the fault of JDL or that particular club? Since you know the answer, how is this at all relevant to your argument?

6) when this league goes away, then what? (Back to the original title of this thread)

If it does, I'd guess the teams that are of age will generally make up the ECNL rosters at their respective clubs, and those that aren't of age, will play in LHGCL next year? What's your guess?

All of the above done apply to everyone but a few of my thoughts for ya.

Whoda thunk BigErn would eventually become the most logical poster on the forum. Once again killing those pushing some preconceived angle or agenda.

Yeah...BigE kinda served you with this one Colt. Well not kinda.

I hope you dont respond with the typical "insult" routine.

by President Camacho 06/02/18, 10:18 am

Why doesn't the parent of the 6 minute player talk calmly to their kid and ask them what they learned in the game... If the kid is confused and doesn't know why she warmed the bench, encourage the player to ask the coach. It would be a good life lesson to learn to communicate and not have a parent take care of everything. Especially at this forum age. They can't make a move until the window opens anyways.

And maybe some meditation for the parents of the player... no fun to sit at the pitch for 6 mins on the field, but making a scene will only embarrass the kid.

by ColtMcVince 06/02/18, 10:58 am

I got served Bc Big Ern says what I say isn’t true? I know he thinks he knows everything based on his condescending attitude toward everyone, and I’m sure he knows a hell of a lot more than me about NTX soccer, but just Bc I didn’t respond to his contrarian position isn’t getting served.

The people who are on this board who have an interest in JDL are going to support it. As did I when my daughter played in that league. However, speaking from personal experience, all of the above things do make it a joke — for me. If Big Ern disagrees with me, he can tell me he thinks I’m wrong as he clearly did. It doesn’t make him right anymore than it does me though since I was there and lived in it for a full year and decided to move on bc it wasn’t what I thought it would be. If his daughter is getting what he needs out of it, good for him and his daughter.

by Foxysoccermom 06/02/18, 12:14 pm

The only thing Bige has ever served on this board is a plate of big club BS.

-Foxy

by AngelinaGoalee 06/02/18, 12:23 pm

my bad....wasnt speaking in terms of "content" more like delivery and tone. Its all opinionated so in some parts there is no right or wrong.

Collectively....a lot of these debates that have been recycled and reworded over the past few weeks in this forum and are redundant...IMO.

I just dont think you have to Hate GDA/BigE in order to love ECNL or whatever other league your child plays in...and vice versa.

I guess because I've met BigE i cant believe errbody gets their drawers in a wad when he posts. They've made topics and polls about him....He's a celebrity now?

by ColtMcVince 06/02/18, 12:25 pm

Fair. I’m not a frequent visitor or poster so I do apologize if I’m hitting subject matter that has recently been beaten to a pulp.

by AngelinaGoalee 06/02/18, 12:40 pm

ColtMcVince wrote:Fair. I’m not a frequent visitor or poster so I do apologize if I’m hitting subject matter that has recently been beaten to a pulp.

whats beyond a pulp? dust maybe?

by Big Ern 06/02/18, 01:09 pm

Foxysoccermom wrote:The only thing Bige has ever served on this board is a plate of big club BS.

-Foxy

Couldn't have been a more predictable, redundant, and truly fitting end to a thread which was "BS" based from the get go --

by Foxysoccermom 06/02/18, 01:53 pm

Big Ern wrote:
Foxysoccermom wrote:The only thing Bige has ever served on this board is a plate of big club BS.

-Foxy

Couldn't have been a more predictable, redundant, and truly fitting end to a thread which was "BS" based from the get go --

You're always the star of the BS threads. Throw you a bone and you come yappin. That's why Foxy luvs ya!

by Foxysoccermom 06/02/18, 02:05 pm

He's a celebrity now? BIGE

Yes he is. Just like a Kardashian. I keep waiting for him to announce he's pregnant.

by Hang1053 06/02/18, 03:15 pm

by Medicine Man 06/02/18, 06:25 pm

.......BigE having a baby! Whos the daddy?

by SickofStupidity 07/02/18, 07:19 am

Zizou layin' low until the "Who's the daddy?" talk blows over.

by Big Ern 07/02/18, 10:08 am

SickofStupidity wrote:Zizou layin' low until the "Who's the daddy?" talk blows over.

And it's literally right there in the name ... "SickofStupidity"

Talk about ironic.

by Medicine Man 07/02/18, 02:08 pm

C'mon Zizou your such a stick in the mud talking about how great things are have a little sense of humor.

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