Week 5B Scores - 04 Girls - EAL, SDL, PTCL, DIAL - Post Them Here

Well the weeks are a little messed up with rain outs in week 2 and week 5 so we will just call this week 5B.

Post scores here!

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Spirit North Red vs Sting West has been cancelled

Liverpool Barnes 4
Odyssey 2

Liverpool Suarez (now Owen) 2
FC Dinamo 1

Just saw a very competitive game... both good high-spirited teams!
PTCL-Gold Div

GSSC 04G BLACK - (0)
Southlake SAINTS 04G/Priddy - (1)

EAL

Dallas Texans South 04 (7)
AFC Red 04 (0)

primetime silver

sting scarfone 8ish fever black 0

Uneven match-up's, teams in different divisions. Possibly the worst season of soccer for this age-group so far.

Primetime Gold

Dallas Kicks SC 04- 6
Dallas Puma Elite 04- 1

Master Bates wrote:Uneven match-up's, teams in different divisions. Possibly the worst season of soccer for this age-group so far.

What can you do? This is what happens when the top 15 teams choose to play in 6-7 different leagues/divisions.

Is there a way for the top teams to play in one league? The 03 and 02 girls have done this with Primetime. I've also seen this done on the boys side. This may have to be a second league with additional fees as some clubs/teams have agreements to play in certain leagues. Playing much weaker or much stronger teams is not good for either team. Many teams are stuck because of the club's business decisions. Doesn't matter how great the fields are or how good the refs are if the other team does not match up appropriately. It will likely take somebody to coordinate this. Any takers?

Shelby427 wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Uneven match-up's, teams in different divisions. Possibly the worst season of soccer for this age-group so far.

What can you do? This is what happens when the top 15 teams choose to play in 6-7 different leagues/divisions.

I agree. I tried to get some of the SDL teams to come over, but they declined, said they would next season. (the fields and 3 refs much better in EAL IMHO.

DT Hirsch-
RE-Scheduled
Dalglish-

DT didnt show (not enough players)

WingNut wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Uneven match-up's, teams in different divisions. Possibly the worst season of soccer for this age-group so far.

What can you do? This is what happens when the top 15 teams choose to play in 6-7 different leagues/divisions.

I agree. I tried to get some of the SDL teams to come over, but they declined, said they would next season. (the fields and 3 refs much better in EAL IMHO.

DT Hirsch-
RE-Scheduled
Dalglish-

DT didnt show (not enough players)

Another 2-3 teams in EAL and they could have done gold and silver with the games being close every week.

2good4u wrote:Is there a way for the top teams to play in one league? The 03 and 02 girls have done this with Primetime. I've also seen this done on the boys side. This may have to be a second league with additional fees as some clubs/teams have agreements to play in certain leagues. Playing much weaker or much stronger teams is not good for either team. Many teams are stuck because of the club's business decisions. Doesn't matter how great the fields are or how good the refs are if the other team does not match up appropriately. It will likely take somebody to coordinate this. Any takers?

PT Gold

Fever United Red-4
Sting Searls-1

In an ideal world, you need a central location/league or at least a home/away set up so teams aren't traveling so far every weekend. Or coaches need to suck it up and just agree to play in same league no matter where it is. You'll find out where you stand pretty quickly.

KennyPowers wrote:

2good4u wrote:Is there a way for the top teams to play in one league? The 03 and 02 girls have done this with Primetime. I've also seen this done on the boys side. This may have to be a second league with additional fees as some clubs/teams have agreements to play in certain leagues. Playing much weaker or much stronger teams is not good for either team. Many teams are stuck because of the club's business decisions. Doesn't matter how great the fields are or how good the refs are if the other team does not match up appropriately. It will likely take somebody to coordinate this. Any takers?

PT Gold

Fever United Red-4
Sting Searls-1

In an ideal world, you need a central location/league or at least a home/away set up so teams aren't traveling so far every weekend. Or coaches need to suck it up and just agree to play in same league no matter where it is. You'll find out where you stand pretty quickly.

I don't think a single league is needed nor is it likely to happen. Heck getting the top 15 -20 teams in 2-3 leagues/divisions would settle things enough to a viable FBR.

I think part of the answer would be for the top 4 04 teams to stop trying to play up when the top 03 teams just don’t want them in the same divisions. If the top 04s played in the same leagues as the rest of the top 10, then there would be plenty of competitive games for them compared to what they are getting now, especially with the top 4-5 playing each other. Then, when they really wanted to push the challenge envelope they could just play up in tournaments that have teams they feel challenge them.

In other words, let’s just try and get reasonable here. 1 league is not practical nor reasonable and neither is 7-8. If the top teams would just split between Primetime and EAL you would get locations to fit 95% of these teams while using quality fields.

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you, Shelby. The better teams can reasonably agree to play in one league. It's done every weekend in the 02/03 age group. Heck, thats whats done in Lake Highlands...Some coaches have their reasons for not wanting to participate but it can be done. Is it necessary at this age? No, but like I said, you will find out pretty quickly where you stand and where you need to improve.

I am on Shelby's side with this. A top team in Keller would travel two hours roundtrip, each Sunday for 9 year old girls soccer girl game. My question is for what? Primetime games are entertaining and just adding one or two Coppell based or West Dallas based teams would make it a top league.

If EAL can get LP Rase and some of the other top 04 teams to play in the same 9v9 04 division next fall, then EAL would probably have the top league for the 04 group. Can you image an EAL division with LP Rase, Solar Kennington, DT North Manchester, DT Deleon, Tx Spirit, Sting West, etc.?

My vote would be to have the top teams play in either Primetime or EAL based on geography. Then have the top 3 teams in each league play in each other in a tournament at the end of the season (1 guest player allowed).

KennyPowers wrote:I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you, Shelby. The better teams can reasonably agree to play in one league. It's done every weekend in the 02/03 age group. Heck, thats whats done in Lake Highlands...Some coaches have their reasons for not wanting to participate but it can be done. Is it necessary at this age? No, but like I said, you will find out pretty quickly where you stand and where you need to improve.

I wasn't meaning it can't be done... I know they do it for the 03s in primetime. Would be great for the 04s too.

My point is that the 7-8 we have now is just ridiculous and that 2-3 would be a huge improvement and enough to get a fair FBR.

EAL sucks and I hope RASE isn't playing there next season in any division. All of the good field this or that and 3 refs oh boy. The cooidinator sucks and it is all about competative games which seems nobody is getting. We were way better off in SDL last season. We would be better off not having played in a league and just scrimmaging other LP teams. Oh and because it's NTX soccer had the wonderful experience of paying a fortune to my local rec association just to play in EAL.

Shelby427 wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you, Shelby. The better teams can reasonably agree to play in one league. It's done every weekend in the 02/03 age group. Heck, thats whats done in Lake Highlands...Some coaches have their reasons for not wanting to participate but it can be done. Is it necessary at this age? No, but like I said, you will find out pretty quickly where you stand and where you need to improve.

I wasn't meaning it can't be done... I know they do it for the 03s in primetime. Would be great for the 04s too.

My point is that the 7-8 we have now is just ridiculous and that 2-3 would be a huge improvement and enough to get a fair FBR.

I think we have the same idea and just by reducing the number of leagues from what it is now would be better than what we currently have. My only point was that it could be done whether practical or not. Wow, two 04 parents from different teams that agree! Imagine that

go99 wrote:EAL sucks and I hope RASE isn't playing there next season in any division. All of the good field this or that and 3 refs oh boy. The cooidinator sucks and it is all about competative games which seems nobody is getting. We were way better off in SDL last season. We would be better off not having played in a league and just scrimmaging other LP teams. Oh and because it's NTX soccer had the wonderful experience of paying a fortune to my local rec association just to play in EAL.

Yes, by the time you pay the huge fee to your local rec association, SDL is actually cheaper than EAL. At least it was for me. The leagues are watered down and are becoming a joke. Something has to change because there are many unhappy parents this season not getting their money's worth.

footballfanatic wrote:

go99 wrote:EAL sucks and I hope RASE isn't playing there next season in any division. All of the good field this or that and 3 refs oh boy. The cooidinator sucks and it is all about competative games which seems nobody is getting. We were way better off in SDL last season. We would be better off not having played in a league and just scrimmaging other LP teams. Oh and because it's NTX soccer had the wonderful experience of paying a fortune to my local rec association just to play in EAL.

Yes, by the time you pay the huge fee to your local rec association, SDL is actually cheaper than EAL. At least it was for me. The leagues are watered down and are becoming a joke. Something has to change because there are many unhappy parents this season not getting their money's worth.

SDL is a joke. The fields, refs, no score keeping, and overall attitude is REC like.

Primetime and EAL have always been good. The only issue this year is again, NOT the coordinators fault that teams choose to play in 8 different leagues/divisions and that the Gold level 03 teams don't want an 04 team in their division.

Shelby427 wrote:

footballfanatic wrote:

go99 wrote:EAL sucks and I hope RASE isn't playing there next season in any division. All of the good field this or that and 3 refs oh boy. The cooidinator sucks and it is all about competative games which seems nobody is getting. We were way better off in SDL last season. We would be better off not having played in a league and just scrimmaging other LP teams. Oh and because it's NTX soccer had the wonderful experience of paying a fortune to my local rec association just to play in EAL.

Yes, by the time you pay the huge fee to your local rec association, SDL is actually cheaper than EAL. At least it was for me. The leagues are watered down and are becoming a joke. Something has to change because there are many unhappy parents this season not getting their money's worth.

SDL is a joke. The fields, refs, no score keeping, and overall attitude is REC like.

Primetime and EAL have always been good. The only issue this year is again, NOT the coordinators fault that teams choose to play in 8 different leagues/divisions and that the Gold level 03 teams don't want an 04 team in their division.

AGREE! EAL coordinator has always worked well with me at least. Not really his fault who signs up or who cancels games an hour before start time. However I totally agree RASE should have been in Gold.

What HUGE fee are we talking about. Mine was 25 Dollars for the year with EAL fee was still cheaper than SDL. Also everyone hates NTSSA but it opens up all tourneys to us not just US Club sanctioned events.

Our 12 month NTX academy fee was $45, I think. Not bad at all.

You need the NTX form not just for an affiliated league like EAL, but also if you ever wanted to play in a LP-sponsored tournament, as thus far, most of them have been NTX affiliated.

You can circumvent this by playing in SDL...but, then you'd only be able to play in Prime Time Tourneys. That was OK back when my 01G went through, but would totally suck for my 04G's.

WingNut wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

footballfanatic wrote:

go99 wrote:EAL sucks and I hope RASE isn't playing there next season in any division. All of the good field this or that and 3 refs oh boy. The cooidinator sucks and it is all about competative games which seems nobody is getting. We were way better off in SDL last season. We would be better off not having played in a league and just scrimmaging other LP teams. Oh and because it's NTX soccer had the wonderful experience of paying a fortune to my local rec association just to play in EAL.

Yes, by the time you pay the huge fee to your local rec association, SDL is actually cheaper than EAL. At least it was for me. The leagues are watered down and are becoming a joke. Something has to change because there are many unhappy parents this season not getting their money's worth.

SDL is a joke. The fields, refs, no score keeping, and overall attitude is REC like.

Primetime and EAL have always been good. The only issue this year is again, NOT the coordinators fault that teams choose to play in 8 different leagues/divisions and that the Gold level 03 teams don't want an 04 team in their division.

AGREE! EAL coordinator has always worked well with me at least. Not really his fault who signs up or who cancels games an hour before start time. However I totally agree RASE should have been in Gold.

What HUGE fee are we talking about. Mine was 25 Dollars for the year with EAL fee was still cheaper than SDL. Also everyone hates NTSSA but it opens up all tourneys to us not just US Club sanctioned events.

I had to pay $50. I was under the assumption that this had to be paid each season but maybe it is an annual fee. I was told that some rec associations make you pay the same amount that it would cost to register for their rec league which is usually around $75.
So, if I am getting such a great deal, please tell me what I am getting for my $50. I'll admit I am not very up-to-date on soccer politics, but I am pretty sure most of the kids around the world don't have to pay a third party for permission to play in a specific league at the age of seven.
I do think that SDL is a horrible league compared to EAL and Primetime but somebody somewhere is making some money off of these stupid fees.