What's wrong with NTX Soccer?

weatherbug wrote:I'd like to see pricing like this for different levels of competitiveness and time commitment.  

http://www.rapidsyouthsoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=273810

silentparent wrote:

weatherbug wrote:I'd like to see pricing like this for different levels of competitiveness and time commitment.  

http://www.rapidsyouthsoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=273810

+1 billion, exactly what should be done here.. 

herradura wrote:This is the stupidest thread ever.

You are all in control of your daughters soccer destiny. Stop blaming everyone else and the "system" for your inadequacies...

How about this to make NTX soccer better: Everyone go pass in the back yard with your daughter for 20 minutes a night and her first touch will get amazingly better... Wow, what a f-ing concept.

Hook It wrote:

herradura wrote:This is the stupidest thread ever.

You are all in control of your daughters soccer destiny. Stop blaming everyone else and the "system" for your inadequacies...

How about this to make NTX soccer better: Everyone go pass in the back yard with your daughter for 20 minutes a night and her first touch will get amazingly better... Wow, what a f-ing concept.

 BoooYaaaahhhh!!!   
At least it got me to laugh.... some value in that!

mommabear1 wrote:I think there should be written "offers" submitted by a coach/team to players they want on their team.  Perhaps a month prior to signing, and the player would have maybe two weeks to accept by signature.  If a coach doesn't submit an offer, you have time to find one that will...or maybe a kid receives multiple "offers" to choose from.  Then parents can see where the team really stands before signing and and coach can see what he really has.  There seems so much pressure to sign on 7/1 and you have to do so based on what you "think" you are signing up for.

I also think that if you sign with a team based on practice at certain days and times, and that is changed mid year...maybe we should be able to change teams then.  Sometime a big reason you chose a certain team is they practice m & wed 5:30-7 but that is changed to t & th 6:30- 8, it could create a real hardship for your family.  Just a thought

Cmon_Man wrote:Bad- coaches actually post (not PM) U6/U7 scores on this forum and claim to be about development  
Worse- That people on this forum actually equate the scores to development and coaching ability
Ridiculous- That parents actually change teams based on this information

Bad-  That coaches “pigeon hole” players into positions at U6/U7
Worse- That the coaches claim this is not being done to win, but to "develop" your dd
Ridiculous- That parents put up with it and continue to pay for this “development”

Bad-  The general quality of refereeing and oversight
Worse- Coaches that teach self control and discipline losing total control with kid referees in front of their “well disciplined” players
Ridiculous- Parents losing total control, throwing temper tantrums and getting removed from fields in front of their children/peers over a bad call made by a kid in his first job learning how to become/act like an “adult”

Bad- Coaches and parents arguing over FBR rankings- how it should be calculated, but not actually wanting to do it themselves
Worse- That parents actually change their dd team on FBR rankings alone
Ridiculous- “That LHGCL does not use it at all”  

Cmon_Man wrote:

Cmon_Man wrote:Bad- coaches actually post (not PM) U6/U7 scores on this forum and claim to be about development  
Worse- That people on this forum actually equate the scores to development and coaching ability
Ridiculous- That parents actually change teams based on this information

Bad-  That coaches “pigeon hole” players into positions at U6/U7
Worse- That the coaches claim this is not being done to win, but to "develop" your dd
Ridiculous- That parents put up with it and continue to pay for this “development”

Bad-  The general quality of refereeing and oversight
Worse- Coaches that teach self control and discipline losing total control with kid referees in front of their “well disciplined” players
Ridiculous- Parents losing total control, throwing temper tantrums and getting removed from fields in front of their children/peers over a bad call made by a kid in his first job learning how to become/act like an “adult”

Bad- Coaches and parents arguing over FBR rankings- how it should be calculated, but not actually wanting to do it themselves
Worse- That parents actually change their dd team on FBR rankings alone
Ridiculous- “That LHGCL does not use it at all”  

Sorry I forgot one that probably bothers me the most about NTX soccer

Bad- The heat
Worse- Qualifying in the hottest part of the summer
Ridiculous-  Parents complaining about mandatory water breaks and how it changes the flow/rhythm of the game  

Hook It wrote:

mommabear1 wrote:I think there should be written "offers" submitted by a coach/team to players they want on their team.  Perhaps a month prior to signing, and the player would have maybe two weeks to accept by signature.  If a coach doesn't submit an offer, you have time to find one that will...or maybe a kid receives multiple "offers" to choose from.  Then parents can see where the team really stands before signing and and coach can see what he really has.  There seems so much pressure to sign on 7/1 and you have to do so based on what you "think" you are signing up for.

I also think that if you sign with a team based on practice at certain days and times, and that is changed mid year...maybe we should be able to change teams then.  Sometime a big reason you chose a certain team is they practice m & wed 5:30-7 but that is changed to t & th 6:30- 8, it could create a real hardship for your family.  Just a thought

Holy mole' .....what are you smoking....oh wait it is the magic wand speaking.  For what it's worth our communication with our coach for signing is done almost a month in advance.  We have annual player reviews in the late spring and that is where the magic happens....

wilatnus wrote:The fact that we rank 8 year old teams?  

Borussia wrote:Watching BarcaTV this morning... showing their U12 squads... all still playing 7v7... if we only had that magic wand....

Borussia wrote:Might see more possession oriented teams if they did. I think you are on that exact topic in another thread.

4-3-3 wrote:

Borussia wrote:Might see more possession oriented teams if they did. I think you are on that exact topic in another thread.

I don't personally think the league format is the primary issue.  7wolf already gave a good rundown of the root cause. Pay to play with parents incentivizing wins is why even if they were playing 3v3 the coaching would be focused on winning over development.  These academies are paid when they sell great players...totally different model that requires coaches have a.different focus.  Barca u12 teams play the same 11v11 style as the senor team.  League play is a tiny fraction  of the soccer minutes these kids play, both  here and there. Its just a small factor.

pitchdweller wrote:OK this is so easy to fix. I will start a new league. The 1 vs. 1 league where each player has a coach and they play a 20 minute game (2 ten minute halves) tournament format. Three games each Saturday with a Sunday QTR SEMI and Finals. Leagues will consist of Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Copper, Tin, and Aluminum Foil Divisions. Players regulated each week based on the previous week’s results. Games will be played at numerous locations to accommodate the massive amount of teams. Parents of each team quarantined behind the goals. Coaches can coach as many teams as they are willing to and parents can change coaches and teams as often as they like. Two referees will be assigned one for each player to insure quality of referees. Play will only be stopped after each goal to kick off. Player not able to able to participate at kick off will forfiet the game. Practice fees and location are set by the coach.
Coaches are paid per goal with the Platinum division coaches getting $100 a goal scored and $1000for winning the game. The Aluminum Foil coaches getting $1 per goal and $10 for winning the game. The rest of the league’s coaches are paid similar with the higher division coaches paid more than the lower division coaches.
This will increase touches on the ball and alleviate playing time issues. A sound proof room will be provided at the facility for each coach to collect his money and listen to parents after the game Parents and coaches’ contact will be limited to one minute after each game. This will be called the Pay & Say time.
Players will then be regulated up to the 2 vs. 2, 3 vs. 3, 4 vs. 4, 5 vs. 5, etc. until they reach the 11 vs. 11 league which will consist of two teams playing weekly with coaches being able to add or drop players at their desecration. Parents will give coaches a blank signed check before each game or they will not be allowed to play, an unlimited balance credit or debit card will be allowed at the coach’s discretion.

Now coaches, players, parents, referees are all happy and soccer is at its best.

PM me and will direct you were to send league fees. $300 per team per season cheaper than all the rest.