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Post by InaB 06/04/15, 12:46 pm

Thanks for the update! Very Happy

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Post by Pele98 06/04/15, 03:05 pm

What if they tie in League games do they go overtime and/or pks?
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Post by KnKsDad 06/04/15, 05:40 pm

scoobysnacks wrote:Fever is a strong and physical team; however pass around them rather than playing their MMA style of soccer and you will see very different results. No disrespect to Fever, those are not typical results from Solar Elite.
Any details from the match with Fever v. Solar Elite?!?!

Just to be clear, who are you referring to?

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Post by Packrabbit 06/04/15, 06:25 pm

KnKsDad wrote:
scoobysnacks wrote:Fever is a strong and physical team; however pass around them rather than playing their MMA style of soccer and you will see very different results. No disrespect to Fever, those are not typical results from Solar Elite.
Any details from the match with Fever v. Solar Elite?!?!

Just to be clear, who are you referring to?

I was wondering how long it would be before "MMA Style" got addressed!
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Post by InaB 07/04/15, 08:10 am

Everybody was kung fu fighting............ Laughing
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Post by Packrabbit 07/04/15, 09:28 pm

Packrabbit wrote:
dadof3 wrote:
I see a Texans/Feet final.  I will take Texans this year...but I think it is a little more wide open with fewer ECNL teams in the field.  The ECNL squads will be looking for football scores to avoid each other until the finals if possible...but that can't happen with 3 of them...Mexico, Canada, and Cali the wildcards...could battle to take it all or disappear after the group...Pulp, Parker, others could find a way to SFs if the cards fall right.
D3: You're being a little skeemish with your predictions; observe below how it is done.

QF 1 Dallas Texans vs Sting Central: DTX 3-1
QF 2 Solar Elite vs Solar Gold:  Battle of Solar: upset, SG, 2-1.
QF 3 Sting Ecnl vs Oakwood: Sting ECNL, sting  3-2
QF 4 Dfeeters  vs PSC: Dfeeter, 4-0

SF1: DTX vs Solar Gold: Dream ends, DTX, 3-0.
SF2: Sting Ecnl vs D'Feeters, feet 2-1

Finals: Feet over DTX, 3-2

Recap, Deep Thoughts and Previous Predictions...


Actual playoffs ...

Quarterfinal
QF 1:  Dallas Texans ECNL U15   4-0      Oakwood Soccer Club
QF 2:  Solar Chelsea Elite 00      4-1      STING CENTRAL '00 (Parker)
QF 3:  Dallas Sting ECNL U15      2-0      Sting Royal 00 Brown
QF 4:  D'Feeters ECNL U15          2-0      Solar Gold '00

Semifinal
SF1:  Dallas Texans ECNL U15   3-1      Solar Chelsea Elite 00
SF2:  Dallas Sting ECNL U15      2-3      D'Feeters ECNL U15

Championship
TBD:  Dallas Texans ECNL U15 vs D'Feeters ECNL U15

Da-gum PSC threw off my predictions!... but with the brackets engineering, quantum mechanics and string theory weren't necessary in determining outcomes.
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Post by InaB 08/04/15, 08:16 am

Pack, you forgot the lunar eclipse, the alignment of Venus, and the oncoming of spring! Very Happy
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Post by KnKsDad 09/04/15, 02:43 pm

Still waiting for clarification on that "MMA style soccer" reference. Come on Scoob, get you head out from under your paws and own up and liven up this dead forum. Considering the limited number of previous posts, I suspect I may have to wait a while for a response though.

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Post by textigerfan 09/04/15, 04:58 pm

KnKsDad...I suspect it might be summer before you get clarification.
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Post by Packrabbit 09/04/15, 07:43 pm

scoobysnacks wrote:Fever is a strong and physical team; however pass around them rather than playing their MMA style of soccer and you will see very different results. No disrespect to Fever, those are not typical results from Solar Elite.
Any details from the match with Fever v. Solar Elite?!?!

Scoob seems to unable or unwilling to respond right now. Since the good people of the forum deserve an answer, I will attempt to to reach my inner paw-ke-mow and channel Scoob's inter-mind and translate, not only the post's true meaning, but his or her thoughts on the match.
Caution: This NOT recommended for novices and amateurs watching at home.

Hummmmmmmmmm-baaaaa-lalalala-scooby-shalooooooommmmmm-balummmm...
I am now in mental contact with scooby's snacks...

Fever is a strong and physical team;
"bunch of thugs who would take your DD's lunch money right there on the field if she was dumb enough to be carrying it..."

however pass around them rather than playing their MMA style of soccer and you will see very different results.
"I don't approve of their 'style of soccer'; without their pugilistic tactics, they would not be competitive. However, our team is not only skilled, but has both size and speed, so their thuggery was NOT an effective tool against us... Their physical approach against us was futile."  

No disrespect to Fever, those are not typical results from Solar Elite.
"For crying-out-loud, the score is not correct... It was wrong, WRONG, WRONG!!! WE KICKED THEIR A**!!! HOW COULD ANY IMBECILE IMAGINE THAT TEAM WOULD BE COMPETITVE AGAINST US, BUT (gasp, shiver) WIN!!"

Any details from the match with Fever v. Solar Elite?!?!
(Find a happy place, take a deep breathe, control...)
"Surely someone was at the match, SOMEONE can... MUST correct this great posting injustice!! Every moment anyone could (gasp, gasp, shutter) believe that, that Fever team actually defeated a team of our caliber is simply UNBEARABLE.... It's... it's like nails on a chalkboard, while wallowing in tank full of bugs and snakes!!! MAKE IT STOOOOPPPP!!!!!!"


Shocked Whew... ALL RIGHTY now... That was awkward!! I think we should have left scooby and his snack alone! Ole' Scooby MIGHT have a few issues bigger than the misprint of the Solar-Fever score.

Rolling Eyes ps, nice win Solar!
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Post by Guest 10/04/15, 12:03 pm

Packrabbit wrote:
scoobysnacks wrote:Fever is a strong and physical team; however pass around them rather than playing their MMA style of soccer and you will see very different results. No disrespect to Fever, those are not typical results from Solar Elite.
Any details from the match with Fever v. Solar Elite?!?!

Scoob seems to unable or unwilling to respond right now. Since the good people of the forum deserve an answer, I will attempt to to reach my inner paw-ke-mow and channel Scoob's inter-mind and translate, not only the post's true meaning, but his or her thoughts on the match.
Caution: This NOT recommended for novices and amateurs watching at home.

Hummmmmmmmmm-baaaaa-lalalala-scooby-shalooooooommmmmm-balummmm...
I am now in mental contact with scooby's snacks...

Fever is a strong and physical team;
"bunch of thugs who would take your DD's lunch money right there on the field if she was dumb enough to be carrying it..."

True, we don't ever practice with an actual soccer ball. Most of our practices are held on I-635 during rush hour. We just line the girls up and charge them at 18 wheelers and dump trucks. Occasionally we will go over to the RR tracks by 377 and charge at trains, but I'm sure we can all agree, you really don't get the kind of repetitions that you need with trains.  


however pass around them rather than playing their MMA style of soccer and you will see very different results.
"I don't approve of their 'style of soccer'; without their pugilistic tactics, they would not be competitive. However, our team is not only skilled, but has both size and speed, so their thuggery was NOT an effective tool against us... Their physical approach against us was futile."  

See, now this is clearly a falsehood. "MMA style" denotes a certain amount of technique or training. We are philosophically opposed to such pansy bourgeois tactics. We are strictly a "human wave mass assault" team. No training, no thinking, just requires one finger pointing in a particular direction and three words, "go that way". It's all very economical.

No disrespect to Fever, those are not typical results from Solar Elite.
"For crying-out-loud, the score is not correct... It was wrong, WRONG, WRONG!!! WE KICKED THEIR A**!!! HOW COULD ANY IMBECILE IMAGINE THAT TEAM WOULD BE COMPETITVE AGAINST US, BUT (gasp, shiver) WIN!!"

OK, good. It would be bad if you disrespected us. Glad to see that you'd never do that. Sportsmanship is alive and well. Oh happy day!!!!

Any details from the match with Fever v. Solar Elite?!?!
(Find a happy place, take a deep breathe, control...)
"Surely someone was at the match, SOMEONE can... MUST correct this great posting injustice!! Every moment anyone could (gasp, gasp, shutter) believe that, that Fever team actually defeated a team of our caliber is simply UNBEARABLE.... It's... it's like nails on a chalkboard, while wallowing in tank full of bugs and snakes!!! MAKE IT STOOOOPPPP!!!!!!"

Wait a minute, now I'm confused.  You began by describing our style of play? Then you ask for details from the match? Did you get a video feed with only our players on it? No? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, your girl's uniforms have the Klingon cloaking device incorporated into the fabric, so they don't show up on video!!!!  For minute there I almost thought you didn't see any of the stuff you were describing.
Details? You got it buddy. One fractured Tibia, one guest player out for the rest of the tournament. On the bright side, my daughter was launched so often, NASA is inquiring as to whether she is available for a space station mission. Jeenkies Shaggy, I'm glad we got all that cleared up. One friend to another, check the packing location of your Scooby snacks. If they're coming from Colorado, they may be tainted.



Shocked Whew... ALL RIGHTY now... That was awkward!! I think we should have left scooby and his snack alone! Ole' Scooby MIGHT have a few issues bigger than the misprint of the Solar-Fever score.

Rolling Eyes ps, nice win Solar!

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Post by KnKsDad 10/04/15, 02:14 pm

Smile Hey, now that was therapeutic! At least for me it was. Thanks folks. However, my DD won't begin her therapy until after the MRI on Monday which will hopefully confirm no ACL, MCL, PCL tear and at worst only an LCL strain or minor meniscus tear to go along with a very small crack in her FIBULA..must get our bones straight now.. In all seriousness though, the injury sustained came from a routine soccer play in this instance, although there have been numerous cases in the past, which fortunately didn't result in injury, where a little extra physicallity was involved - on the receiving end - for both individual and team, so when the MMA comparison was directed toward our team it got my dander up just a bit.

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Post by Packrabbit 10/04/15, 06:06 pm

Speaking of which... It is just MY acute soccer perception, or did anyone else notice the level of physicality allowed during DIGC as a whole? At our our weekly gathering of ESPA (for the uneducated--Expert Soccer Parents Anonymous, er, uh, Association), I was surprised by the level of severe injuries suffered during this tournament.

Personally, I witnessed more than a few matches that were so egregiously managed, I actually spilled my cocktail (oh Lord, I swear I saw hate in InaB's eyes and feared she would punch me)... !  I appreciate a certain level aggressiveness on the pitch, but when a ref refuses to issue a card after a true MMA take-down away from the ball, I suspect something was wrong in their pre-tournament instruction. There were entirely too many "stern talking too's" and yellow cards issued after a player was carried off the field. I hope the organizers kept numbers on the injuries suffered.

In fact, ESPA gave this year's DIGC a "C-". The fields, peoples and cocktails were wonderful, but our "beefs" in order:

1. The Brackets. Again. It's almost laughable until you remember you PAID to participate. The Texans need at least one opponent of equivalent skill before the semi's.
2. The officiating. This has NOT been a issue in the past. See spilled cocktail above.
3. Scheduling: Before an uninformed twit makes an accusation, my DD's schedule was fine, but there's not one single excuse that can be given for making teams play twice in a day, especially late in the week.
4. I still haven't been reimbursed for my spilled cocktail... And Texans, that invoice is net 30 days....
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Post by Guest 10/04/15, 07:29 pm

I would take those Ref's, 100% of the time, over our normal NTX experience. Not a close call at all for me.

What I'd really like to do, is video a whole game and post it. No commentary, nothing, just the game. I don't think admin allows that though. I also think folks would go nuts. It's impossible to have a decent discussion, without the actual event to reference. I see all the time, where two former pro's watching the same event, disagree on the proper call. We're on here trying to determine what happened by telling each other stories. It's really quite insane

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Post by Packrabbit 10/04/15, 08:57 pm

OLJW wrote:I would take those Ref's, 100% of the time, over our normal NTX experience. Not a close call at all for me.

What I'd really like to do, is video a whole game and post it. No commentary, nothing, just the game. I don't think admin allows that though. I also think folks would go nuts. It's impossible to have a decent discussion, without the actual event to reference. I see all the time, where two former pro's watching the same event, disagree on the proper call. We're on here trying to determine what happened by telling each other stories. It's really quite insane

Quit sucking up to ref's.  cyclops
I'd agree with you in years past. I haven't seen nor heard of this many injuries in this tournament over the past 4 years. This tournament in the past was called much more tightly than this year. Maybe it was just the dozen or so (parts of) matches I saw during the week (the officiating did tighten during the playoffs).

Several matches were videoed during the tournament. You might check with the tournament's videographer to see if any of your team are available.
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Post by Guest 10/04/15, 10:46 pm

LOL, that is more funny than you realize. If you said that within earshot of our parents, 100% would burst into laughter, 50% would fall on the ground and a few might need oxygen. I assure you, no one that knows me, accuses me of sucking up to the Ref's. I am on record, three years ago, of warning anyone that would listen, that the injuries would escalate. My hypothesis was, 100 lb 12 yr olds smashing into each other is one thing. 130-170 lb 15 yr olds smashing into each other is something very different. No mystery here, pure and simple physics. I further cautioned, that the best hope for avoiding injuries, is to call it tighter. Fast forward to today. They don't call it tighter, the collisions are more violent because the girls are bigger and faster and the predictable result is, the injuries are more numerous and more severe. I predict it will continue until someone that is perceived to be important, has their daughter maimed permanently, in a particularly aggregious fashion. It's the graveyard mentality. Everybody sees what is coming, but it takes a shocking event to get people to change their ways.

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Post by KnKsDad 13/04/15, 10:49 am

Packrabbit wrote:Speaking of which... It is just MY acute soccer perception, or did anyone else notice the level of physicality allowed during DIGC as a whole? At our our weekly gathering of ESPA (for the uneducated--Expert Soccer Parents Anonymous, er, uh, Association), I was surprised by the level of severe injuries suffered during this tournament.

Personally, I witnessed more than a few matches that were so egregiously managed, I actually spilled my cocktail (oh Lord, I swear I saw hate in InaB's eyes and feared she would punch me)... !  I appreciate a certain level aggressiveness on the pitch, but when a ref refuses to issue a card after a true MMA take-down away from the ball, I suspect something was wrong in their pre-tournament instruction. There were entirely too many "stern talking too's" and yellow cards issued after a player was carried off the field. I hope the organizers kept numbers on the injuries suffered.

In fact, ESPA gave this year's DIGC a "C-". The fields, peoples and cocktails were wonderful, but our "beefs" in order:

1. The Brackets. Again. It's almost laughable until you remember you PAID to participate. The Texans need at least one opponent of equivalent skill before the semi's.
2. The officiating. This has NOT been a issue in the past. See spilled cocktail above.
3. Scheduling: Before an uninformed twit makes an accusation, my DD's schedule was fine, but there's not one single excuse that can be given for making teams play twice in a day, especially late in the week.
4. I still haven't been reimbursed for my spilled cocktail... And Texans, that invoice is net 30 days....

5. First aid response time: When an injury does occur, don't wait until the succeeding game on that field starts before sending a trainer and God forbid, a cart, to the scene, forcing an overweight and already rattled soccer dad who had eaten one too many Torchy's tacos for lunch to hustle all over the damn soccer complex looking for assistance. And when you do bring the cart, you might think about leaving all the ground maintenance crap off the back. I am thankful that at least DD did have a place to sit and a ride to the car so I didn't have to try to carry her - or seek out OLJW's assistance since he already has some experience in that regard - and besides, me and wife (oop's) need the exercise. Seriously though, 30 minutes is too flipping long to have to wait, but then why should they hurry, they got their waiver signed. Whew, now that was therapeutic.

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Post by InaB 13/04/15, 01:53 pm

Dearest Pack, I was only perturbed that you violated the first rule in cocktails at a tourney - SPILLING - that cannot on any level be tolerated. Oh the humanity.................... drunken
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Post by Packrabbit 13/04/15, 03:32 pm

InaB wrote:Dearest Pack, I was only perturbed that you violated the first rule in cocktails at a tourney - SPILLING - that cannot on any level be tolerated. Oh the humanity.................... drunken

Agreed... I was raised correctly, but i got caught up in the moment - my excitement, shock and dismay got the better of me... But making me use the sippy-cup after was a little embarrassing...

This episode very well may affect my board vote on ESPA's endorsement of this tournament next year... This issue has been a hot topic and has really been driving ESPA Membership applications.
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