FBR09 Rankings May 29th, 2018

Butfirstsoccer09 wrote:

NeverHome wrote:Sadly, I guess winning tournaments in Houston don’t matter either.  

It looks like DTS only had 1 close game and the teams aside from maybe 1 were pretty weak. Look at their game history. Winning tournaments doesn’t help the ranking...it’s the games that do. The teams look pretty low level, so that won’t help the ranking.

To clarify, these rankings are only for NTX clubs and the rankings are only impacted by games against other NTX clubs in the same age group or older (beating the top 10G team doesnt help but beating a mid ranked 08G team could). Winning a Houston tournament unfortunately does not impact the rankings unless there was any game against another NTX team. (I had all the same questions about the rankings a year ago when I first started following, and I am still a newbie)

tntsoccermom wrote:I'm sure it's been asked... is there a link to a post explaining how rankings are determined?

Here you go, tnt...this was previously provided by BWGophers, who relinquished his account some months back. However, as the story goes, he and some others are the ones who set up the FBR based on a software package called Football Rankulator (http://www.footballrankulator.com/). It's a software package based on the former algorithm used for BCS college football rankings (pulling data from multiple sources to calculate rankings). As you will see, the data is weighted and is what FBR has consistently used since its inception. At least, that's what we've been told here on the board. I have no connection to any FBR admins, that I'm aware of, but have found the background info. very useful for understanding the methodology.

Read at your own peril...

FBR uses 3 primary ranking criteria:

1) Weighted Wins*
2) Average Margin of Victory (MoV)
3) Strength of Schedule (SoS)

*Weighted Wins is split into 2 sub-categories – Average Weighted Wins/Game Played (AWW), and Most Weighted Wins (MWW).

AWW accounts for 40% of the final ranking calculation
MWW accounts for 10% of the final ranking calculation
MoV accounts for 20% of the final ranking calculation
SoS accounts for 30% of the final ranking calculation


Section I: Weighted Wins and Weighted Losses:

Weighted Wins (WW) and Weighted Losses (WL) are used in the AWW, MWW and SoS calculations, and are at the heart of how FBR works.

We establish ranking Tiers in the FBR that give greater weighting to games played against stronger opponents. Placement in the ranking tiers is based solely on actual game performance and is reviewed and adjusted where necessary on a frequent basis. The "general" rule governing tier placement is an "80/20" rule. A team should get a Win or Draw in >80% of their games against teams from a lower ranking tier, a Win or Draw in somewhere between 20-80% of their games against teams within their ranking tier, and a Win or Draw in <20% of their games against teams from a higher ranking tier. The net result is that you should get grouping of teams of relatively similar strength in each tier. A weighting factor is then assigned to each tier. From empirical experience with a full year's worth of data on the '01's at U10, we determined that reducing the weighting factor by 50% in each successive tier works the best overall.

Current weighting factors are:
Tier 1 = 52
Tier 2 = 26
Tier 3 = 13
Tier 4 = 7**
Tier 5 = 3**
Tier 6 = 1**
**(can only assign whole #'s)

A win gets a team (1*Tier weighting factor) Weighted Wins (i.e. 52 WW for a W over a Tier 1 team, 26 WW for a W over a Tier 2 team, etc.) and 0 weighted losses (WL)
A draw gets a team (0.5 * Tier weighting factor) WW and (0.5 * (100-Tier weighting factor)) WL (i.e. 26-24 WW-WL for a Tier 1 draw, 13-37 WW-WL for a Tier 2 draw, etc.)
A loss gets a team 0 WW and (1*(100-(Tier weighting factor)) WL (i.e. 48 WL for a loss to a Tier 1 team, 74 WL for a loss to a Tier 2 team, etc.)

Section II: Average Weighted Wins per Game Played:

The first ranking criterion used is Avg WW. This is simply a team’s total WW (as calculated using the method described above) divided by the total # of games they have played. In other words, what is the average "strength" of their game results any time those girls lace up their cleats.

Section III: Most Weighted Wins

This is simply the total # of Weighted Wins for a team. It is used in the rankings to give credit to teams that step up and play tougher competition on a regular basis AND perform well in those games.

For example, if you have 2 teams that have played roughly equal strength competition, but Team A is 16-0 while Team B is 8-0, Team A should get more credit as they have actually played the games and delivered the results. Team B might go 8-0 over their next 8 games, but the actual probability of that happening is < 100 %.

Section IV: Average Margin of Victory:

Pure and simple... (Total Goals Scored - Total goals allowed)/Total # of Games

Section V: Strength of Schedule:

Uses WW-WL record of a team's opponents AND the opponent's opponents. Weighted 75% for opponent's cumulative WW-WL record, 25% for opponent's opponents cumulative WW-WL record. (You really need the FBR SW's database capability to keep track of all of this).

Section VI: Calculating Final Ranking Points:

The ranking criteria values are calculated for each team as described in sections II-V. For each criterion, the teams are listed and sorted from highest criteria total to lowest. The team with the highest total in a particular criterion is assigned 100 points. The ranking points for all other teams in that criteria are then calculated as a % of the top team’s total.

For example:

Team A has the highest total for Avg. WW = 50 WW/Game.
Team B has Avg. WW = 30 WW/Game

Team A gets 100 Ranking Points in the Avg WW category
Team B gets (30/50)*100 = 60 Ranking points in the Avg. WW category.

The ranking points for each criterion are then multiplied by the corresponding final ranking calculation weight for that criterion, and summed up to get a team's Total Ranking Points.

Again for example, let's say:

Team A = 100 points for Avg. WW, 100 points for Most WW, 90 points for MoV, 75 points for SoS
Team A Total Ranking Points = (100 * 0.4) + (100 * 0.1) + (90 * 0.2) + (75 * 0.3) = (40) + (10) + (18) + (22.5) = 90.5 points

Team B = 60 points for Avg. WW, 80 points for Most WW, 50 points for MoV, 100 points for SoS
Team B Total Ranking Points = (60 * 0.4) + (80 * 0.1) + (50 * 0.2) + (100 * 0.3) = (24) + (8 ) + (10) + (30) = 72 points

Teams are then sorted by total ranking points to determine final FBR ranking.

Bottom line, some teams want to win 7 to 0 or 10 to 0, instead of playing teams that will challenge them. We see it all the time, no reason to sign up for tournaments that don't have anyone that will give u a good game.

Some of the best games our DD has played have been against the toughest teams. They’re hair raising and adrenaline filled. What matters is what she learns from them. We tell her that this is the real reward. She still doesn’t understand that way of thinking though. ????

I'd rather lose in a close game than win in a blow out. I think the close games will teach the bigger lessons in the long run.

Is Rush the only team that plays against boys?

Love the 09 group. Civil but very engaged. Keep up the strong work.

I believe there are a few teams that play against boys

Our team played against boys this past season and it made a world of difference in decision making skills and speed of play. Granted it was in a rec league and by no means do i consider our team a top team (academy wise) but they are improving each and every game.

DTS Coming to SOLAR?! Nice.....

Solar Evan's plays against boys.

DTS played in Saturday UAL against 08 and 09 boys

Thank you ProDallas!