Re: Impressions of HS teams so far

by Gunners 18/01/12, 06:52 pm

Pitchmon wrote:
bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports

Incorrect.

by TNT 18/01/12, 09:38 pm

Gunners wrote:
Number07 wrote:We (TC) have been told we will be 5A next year... Would have preferred another year or 2 in 4A personally.

Have also heard a rumor that Fossil Ridge may move down to 4A again but I have no idea I'd this is true.

You should learn to hide kids better like some of the less scrupulous 4A schools *cough* Ryan *cough*.

please elaborate, you think the school gives false student population numbers, I would assume such would be easy to confirm.

by Pitchmon 18/01/12, 09:55 pm

Gunners wrote:
Pitchmon wrote:
bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports

Incorrect.

OK edumacte me, examples Please? I admit I don't know everything, but in our district 7-5A and surrounding it has been the same?

by bronxdad 19/01/12, 01:46 pm

Pitchmon wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Pitchmon wrote:
bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports

Incorrect.

OK edumacte me, examples Please? I admit I don't know everything, but in our district 7-5A and surrounding it has been the same?

http://www.uiltexas.org/alignments

look at alignments for each sport, they do differ depending upon sport. For example Argyle, Burkburnett and Gainseville are 3A schools but particapate in 4A soccer.

by locomotion 19/01/12, 08:14 pm

bronxdad wrote:
Pitchmon wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Pitchmon wrote:
bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports

Incorrect.

OK edumacte me, examples Please? I admit I don't know everything, but in our district 7-5A and surrounding it has been the same?

http://www.uiltexas.org/alignments

look at alignments for each sport, they do differ depending upon sport. For example Argyle, Burkburnett and Gainseville are 3A schools but particapate in 4A soccer.

Wow, theres allot of schools :-)

by 96soccermom 19/01/12, 09:35 pm

While whether you are 4A or 5A are the same per sport the districts and who you play are different. In our district 20A for soccer we play Highland Park, Pearce, The Colony etc. For all other sports we are in a different district and play 5 of the 6 Frisco High Schools.

I understand the reason it is different for soccer is that the 6th Frisco high school which is 3A for all sports plays up in soccer to 4A as no 3A soccer. Since there were 6 schools all in the same district they kept them as one district so we had to be moved with other schools.

Should be interesting to see who moves up and who moves down and what that does to districts and playoffs after this year.

by Pitchmon 20/01/12, 10:41 pm

locomotion wrote:
bronxdad wrote:
Pitchmon wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Pitchmon wrote:
bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports

Incorrect.

OK edumacte me, examples Please? I admit I don't know everything, but in our district 7-5A and surrounding it has been the same?

http://www.uiltexas.org/alignments

look at alignments for each sport, they do differ depending upon sport. For example Argyle, Burkburnett and Gainseville are 3A schools but particapate in 4A soccer.
Wow, theres allot of schools :-)

OK so yeah I learned I guess I only know 7-5a, 6-5a etc in 5a so now I see, kinda like college as well where DBU is DII girls soccer and DI mens baseball

by socrocks 23/01/12, 04:15 pm

Uncle Numanga wrote:You start.

You got nothin'?

by Uncle Numanga 24/01/12, 07:56 am

How's this?

So far, it appears that Carroll and Marcus are the cream of crop. Both teams can score and not get scored on, which is really important. So far, Carroll has scored 32 goals without giving up any.

It seems that Boyd is struggling but they have too much talent to keep tying games. Same goes for Coppell and Grapevine regarding talent.

Flower Mound should get a little more recognition. Their speed makes them a threat. Probably the fastest team we played.

I would sure like to know what the heck is going on at Plano West. They have more D1 players than any other high school but really seem to be underperforming. I thought getting rid of their old coach would propel them to the top.

Many of these cities have way too many high schools. The dilution of talent makes it hard for any one to compete.

I think that the Parochial schools are always ranked too high. I would like to see them play a tougher schedule before giving them too much credit.

by socrocks 24/01/12, 09:54 am

Can someone verify the Coppell vs Mansfield score?
On Coppell's website it says Coppell won 5-0....on Mansfield's website it says Mansfield won 3-1.

by Guest 24/01/12, 10:13 am

socrocks wrote:Can someone verify the Coppell vs Mansfield score?
On Coppell's website it says Coppell won 5-0....on Mansfield's website it says Mansfield won 3-1.

Coppell Varsity beat Mansfield JV team 5-0.
Mansfield Varsity beat Coppell Varsity 3-1. I think that is how it happened.

by socrocks 24/01/12, 10:44 am

So I guess Mansfield must be the real deal. Their only blemish looks to be tie to Keller Central.

But KC beat Allen 2-0, so maybe not a blemish. We (Flower Mound) play KC tonight. In the damn rain! Should be a good game.

Any other good match-ups tonight?

by socrocks 24/01/12, 10:54 am

Uncle Numanga wrote:How's this? Not bad, maybe earned a stripe.

So far, it appears that Carroll and Marcus are the cream of crop. Both teams can score and not get scored on, which is really important. So far, Carroll has scored 32 goals without giving up any. Ahhh but Carroll did give up a goal to the mighty Jags of FM.

It seems that Boyd is struggling but they have too much talent to keep tying games. Same goes for Coppell and Grapevine regarding talent.

Flower Mound should get a little more recognition. Their speed makes them a threat. Probably the fastest team we played. Tough district should sort things out soon enough.

I would sure like to know what the heck is going on at Plano West. They have more D1 players than any other high school but really seem to be underperforming. I thought getting rid of their old coach would propel them to the top. Yeah, a little inconsistent....lose to Highland Park 2-1 but beat Coppell 3-0.

Many of these cities have way too many high schools. The dilution of talent makes it hard for any one to compete. What choice do they have? The student population and growth plans, pretty much dictate that.

I think that the Parochial schools are always ranked too high. I would like to see them play a tougher schedule before giving them too much credit. I would tend to agree with this. I think there are a lot of 4A schools that probably deserve some attention.

by Uncle Numanga 24/01/12, 11:01 am

"Many of these cities have way too many high schools. The dilution of talent makes it hard for any one to compete. What choice do they have? The student population and growth plans, pretty much dictate that."

Do like Southlake, split up the high school into 2 campuses. That way you can grow and still remain a one high school town. Easy enough?

And the FM goal? Fluke

Seriously, FM gave us the toughest test we have faced, at least for 30 minutes. I am sure we will see you in the playoffs. It seems we always do.

by stillyuk 24/01/12, 11:02 am

So far, it appears that Carroll and Marcus are the cream of crop. Both teams can score and not get scored on, which is really important. So far, Carroll has scored 32 goals without giving up any. Ahhh but Carroll did give up a goal to the mighty Jags of FM.

Scrimmages don't count. Wink

by Frogfan1 24/01/12, 11:08 am

Ursuline vs Bishop Lynch should be a good one tonight.

4A Denton Ryan when healthy is loaded!

by locomotion 24/01/12, 12:17 pm

Uncle Numanga wrote:"Many of these cities have way too many high schools. The dilution of talent makes it hard for any one to compete. What choice do they have? The student population and growth plans, pretty much dictate that."

Do like Southlake, split up the high school into 2 campuses. That way you can grow and still remain a one high school town. Easy enough?

And the FM goal? Fluke

Seriously, FM gave us the toughest test we have faced, at least for 30 minutes. I am sure we will see you in the playoffs. It seems we always do.

I was there. That goal was no fluke Very Happy

. The FM forward blew by the defender, made a move on the keeper and scored a very nice goal.

It was returned later by Uncs own, with a fantastic, back to the goal spin move score.

That was pretty.

Yes, it was a scrimmage though...

by futvideo 24/01/12, 12:28 pm

Not sure what Byron Nelson High school is in but they are a force to be reckoned with.

Newman Smith played them this past weekend and they pulled the starters in the second half.

The highlights are at http://youthsoccergirls.shutterfly.com/hs along with a few other Smith games.

by socrocks 24/01/12, 12:50 pm

I've got mixed feelings about the single high school, split campus plan. For a land-locked city like Coppell (and to some degree Southlake), I can see the value...and appreciate not dividing a community.

But for high growth cities like Frisco, McKinney, Keller, Mansfield, etc....it's just not an option. And having a huge enrollment is really not fair to the rest of the schools in the class. Back in my day, for the most part, graduating classes in 4A (was no 5A) were about 600ish. For everyone but Plano....who was over 1000. Back then, Plano used to win everything. Why? B/c they had 2 schools worth of athletes to build a super team from. BTW, what is the enrollment at Allen? That place is monstrous.

Our FM high schools are already bulging and there are plans for additional campuses (9th/10th grade separate campuses). Not sure I see the advantage of that vs just adding another full 4 yr high school.

by socrocks 24/01/12, 12:53 pm

stillyuk wrote:So far, it appears that Carroll and Marcus are the cream of crop. Both teams can score and not get scored on, which is really important. So far, Carroll has scored 32 goals without giving up any. Ahhh but Carroll did give up a goal to the mighty Jags of FM.

Scrimmages don't count.

Scrimmages count to the team that stands to gain the most from the result! Otherwise, you're correct....

by u95g dad 24/01/12, 01:23 pm

socrocks wrote:So I guess Mansfield must be the real deal. Their only blemish looks to be tie to Keller Central.

But KC beat Allen 2-0, so maybe not a blemish. We (Flower Mound) play KC tonight. In the damn rain! Should be a good game.

Any other good match-ups tonight?

Keller play Marcus tonight. I hear Keller is down a few players with injuries so not sure how that game will play out.

Regarding the FM goal against SLC. Bell also scored a goal against SL. Again, that was a scrimmage. Part of the reason for the scrimmage is to see a bunch of players and try out different things. Goals scored and given up are not kept in the season stats. Heck, none of the scrimmage scores even show up on the website.

I would say it is safe to say SLC will not go all year without giving up any goals. Nine shutouts to start the year is a good start. With a trip to Georgetown later this week we will see if the shutout streak can continue. Then district starts after that and there should be some good games. Guyer may be a sleeper. I see they only lost 1-0 to Marcus. Coppell will be strong as usual and Keller has a good team. Not sure about Fossil Ridge, Central and Northwest but I am guessing they will be better than average at least.

by Uncle Numanga 24/01/12, 01:23 pm

locomotion wrote:
Uncle Numanga wrote:"Many of these cities have way too many high schools. The dilution of talent makes it hard for any one to compete. What choice do they have? The student population and growth plans, pretty much dictate that."

Do like Southlake, split up the high school into 2 campuses. That way you can grow and still remain a one high school town. Easy enough?

And the FM goal? Fluke

Seriously, FM gave us the toughest test we have faced, at least for 30 minutes. I am sure we will see you in the playoffs. It seems we always do.
I was there. That goal was no fluke . The FM forward blew by the defender, made a move on the keeper and scored a very nice goal.

It was returned later by Uncs own, with a fantastic, back to the goal spin move score.

That was pretty.

Yes, it was a scrimmage though...

That fluke comment was strictly tongue in cheek.

by ontheball 24/01/12, 07:13 pm

Mansfield has done well so far. I certainly, as I am sure others, did not expect us to beat Coppell. Shame on me for not being a believer in the dd's team. Their performance to date has been good. No stand outs, but they play well together and very smart! I am looking forward to our game against Boyd as that will be some great competition.

by LoneStar 24/01/12, 08:15 pm

socrocks wrote:
Uncle Numanga wrote:You start.

You got nothin'?

Frisco high has played both Flower mound and Hebron. Socrocks.....sorry I did not say hi, it has been awhile since I have seen you. FM had the forwards that Hebron did not have. Hebron has a better midfield. My kid and I left at half against FM(got to love leaving soccer to go to a JV Basketball game).FM and Hebron were good teams, FM better because they have the forwards.

Unc....the greatness of 4a to 5a....my kid can play JV basketball Yes she loves soccer, but she has the option to try and play another sport because she can.

by LoneStar 24/01/12, 08:22 pm

Ok, my kid is a freshman.....I am amazed by the parents who say that highschool soccer is a joke and a waste. Maybe I should start a new thread on this. As a parent I understand the injury issue, but playing for your school and with friends....I just don't understand the hate

by socrocks 25/01/12, 10:11 am

Hi LS.....long time, no see. I though I recognized your dd at the game (but everyone was so bundled up I didn't see you...in fact, not sure that was my wife I was cuddling with). Nice goal by your dd on that free kick.

You guys have a skilled, well-disciplined team and should make some noise in your district and beyond. Best of luck!

Also, good luck to everyone heading to Georgetown this weekend. Hope the weather improves.

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