XARA Winter Cup Scores....POST EM

Spirits parents cheered when coach was asked to leave the field.

bossypants wrote:

Goalkick wrote:I was watching to game too and happened to catch the coach getting asked to leave. I wouldn't want to be part of a team that the parents cheered when the coach was asked to leave. Very unsportsmanlike. What does that teach the girls. What the coach did was right. He was looking out for his players. For their safety. I think these refs forget they are reffing 10 year old girls. They need to be taught how to play the game now.

I saw this too (parents cheering) Im sure it wasnt all of them but for thise that did it didnt show much class.

As a spirit parent I can see how the opposing team parent would think we were clapping as the coach was getting kicked out....I will not speak for ALL us parents BUT i will say this..I WAS clapping...And it wasn't because the coach was getting kicked out. It was because the lil girl that was laying on the ground crying finally got up. It all happen at the same time, Coach getting kicked out and hurt player getting up. So yes we parents were clapping , but that lil girl was getting up as..Perception on how one wants to look at it.....I was sitting right by the goal and the lady ref . Her and i had some words because I said that was some B S and she told me something and i said i wasn't talking to her i was talking to my family..Then she explained to me as she step to me I was on her sideline.....blahahah its amazing the Balls of some folks..Anyway after she figured she handled me hard she said that i should teach my child to kick the ball out if a player is down because they will not stop it unless it was a direct hit to the head or neck....Moving forward there will be a rematch and im sure it will be a good game but like im going to tell my child we got to more teams to play.. That was last week and now we gonna focus on this week and not just the liverpool team but the other teams we are gonna play...

From an outside perspective it certainly didn't appear that way. Especially when the parents didn't cheer when she stood up. Normally they clap etc... This was a full blown cheer after the ref was done talking and pointed to the parking lot. So, I can see what you are saying, but appearances say that it wasn't for the girl that stood up.

SoccerDad2002 wrote:We checked out a couple games to see how the teams were. Trying to figure out if we keep our daughter where she is OR move her to a different team. We liked Spirit and were impressed with St John until the last two games. Like one poster said, if it weren't for the PK goal vs. Liverpool 02 Dalglish they would have lost and I believe would not have played Spirit - I believe Liverpool 02 Dalglish would have been in the finals.

Then I thought Spirit handled St John really well and Spirit, who as we said were impressed with, definitely deserved that game. Congrats to SPIRIT for winning that tournament and to St John for being a finalist.

Yep, Liverpool 02 Dalglish (Waldrum) looked strong...shame about the PK call. Would of liked to seen Dalglish against Spirit!

Was the ref that called PK a kid who looked to be 12 years old with glasses?

Little bit worrying if this is the type of officiating EAL is going to offer. I'm glad my kid is playing SDL and I NEVER thought I'd say that.

Master Bates wrote:Little bit worrying if this is the type of officiating EAL is going to offer. I'm glad my kid is playing SDL and I NEVER thought I'd say that.

Yea... there was a TERRIBLE PK called on a clean take away in the Beardsley - South 04 game. I was told the call was so bad LW agreed. This cost South the ability to move on to the finals as a result of a tie with Beardsley.

What was more annoying is that my brother in-law said the parents spoke with the AR who agreed it was not a PK either. When asked why he didn't speak to the center ref as this AR was the closest to the "foul" he claimed he didn't have the authority.

This is of course false in that the side judge can always tell the center ref what he saw leaving the final decision to the center. The fact he didn't know this was what hacked the parents off.

Anyhow, the oldest ref in that crew couldn't have been more than 16.

Bad calls happen, it's just part of the game. Not knowing the rules... that's frustrating.

Master Bates wrote:Little bit worrying if this is the type of officiating EAL is going to offer. I'm glad my kid is playing SDL and I NEVER thought I'd say that.

The person who assigned the referees for the XARA tournament is not the EAL referee assignor.

coachdom23 wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Little bit worrying if this is the type of officiating EAL is going to offer. I'm glad my kid is playing SDL and I NEVER thought I'd say that.

The person who assigned the referees for the XARA tournament is not the EAL referee assignor.

Never had any issues with referees in EAL. Love that there are 3 in EAL, hate only 2 like in SDL.

Well played game for both teams!

Couple points to clarify:
1) Liverpool's coach was warned in the first half by the HR to calm down as he was harrassing the LR on his side. The 2nd half ejection was due in part to his first half warning.
2) The officiating was a non-issue as the calls were terrible both ways - the game might as well been a naked scrimmage as the only call the HR got correct was proper throw-ins... note I didn't say proper possession.

I never like to see a player go down during a match, but the tackle was text book clean. I look forward to watching both these teams develop over the Spring season.

Best of luck to both teams in the Legacy Cup

The coach was merely questioning a call... One of his players had her feet swipped out from under her and she went air born... The HR called advantage, however the other team got the ball... Which means the HR should have called the foul and he didn't. The coach was upset bc it was the HR 's responsibility at that point to make the call. He clearly knew a foul had been committed and then chose to ignore it despite the loss of the ball. I wouldnt call that harassing the LR. So when the other play happened and the HR didn't call the foul, clearly the coach was upset, and rightfully so. Like mentioned in a previous post, it is the refs responsibility, to teach the girls how to play clean games, with their actions on the field by making the right calls. They teach the game. Far too many girls end up having to quit bc of having sustained too many concussions. Shouldn't that speak volumes to the refs and the ref assingors. Say what you want about the coach "harassing" the LR but someone has to stick up for the girls since there isn't anything other than complaining about the refs, that can be done. And it's obvious that hasn't done any good. These refs take their "power" way too far!,

My 04 DD's coach just got on to her the other day for talking to the "ref"--i.e. him--during practice (she was complaining that it should have been her team's possession on a kick in during their little scrimmage. He stopped practice long enough to make sure that she and everyone else on the team (and parents) heard and understood that they do not get to talk to the ref, that refs sometimes make mistakes and the only time he will ever talk to the ref is when he is concerned about the safety of his players. Loved it! My DD wasn't being rude or "smart"--just arguing her case and he knew it, but also took the time to say something knowing enough to know that if he doesn't nip that in the bud, it could get worse like some of the other posts we've seen about players being so disrespectful. (not saying MY kid! Ha! She'd better not!

All that to say that while I think we all need to watch how we comment on the sidelines on both sides of the field for most things, if the LP coach was worried about the safety of his players, I'd be angry as a parent if he didn't say something to the ref.