Solar coup?

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

Packrabbit wrote:What am I missing?  There are a lot of factual statements issued, then followed by back-peddling when asked directly to clarify.  I haven't been on forum long enough to know how these things play out.  

I thought it was a shame that such a good team/coach not getting deserved college exposure, but there was so much rationalizing, defending the LP status quo so I figured it wasn't a CP/LP concern. Everything I have seen here seems to imply its a good move for the team, but I am not seeing the benefit of the move for the girls, unless there is some unknown club concern. 

It's a lot of big dogs in one place--It's hard to see Solca or those parents standing asides for anyone... If the common wisdom is that CP is moving to get his girls better exposure, but not taking them ECNL seems like the same issue, different address. If CP only lost 3 players to ECNL teams, ECNL may not be the motivating force for the girls that stayed... What is gained from the move?

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

OK people, my question is, has CP really left LP? He is still on their web page. Either they are in denial or he is waiting to go for some reason.

I will say that no one from his team is putting up a denial however.

edited to add comment.

InaB wrote:OK people, my question is, has CP really left LP? He is still on their web page. Either they are in denial or he is waiting to go for some reason.

If he stays it will be a life saver for LP!

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Keep telling yourself that. Having 100's of academy teams does not make you relevant or recognizable. Having good select teams, playing in significant leagues, does. The only two teams of relevance just left LP.

UEFA wrote:

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

Packrabbit wrote:What am I missing?  There are a lot of factual statements issued, then followed by back-peddling when asked directly to clarify.  I haven't been on forum long enough to know how these things play out.  

I thought it was a shame that such a good team/coach not getting deserved college exposure, but there was so much rationalizing, defending the LP status quo so I figured it wasn't a CP/LP concern. Everything I have seen here seems to imply its a good move for the team, but I am not seeing the benefit of the move for the girls, unless there is some unknown club concern. 

It's a lot of big dogs in one place--It's hard to see Solca or those parents standing asides for anyone... If the common wisdom is that CP is moving to get his girls better exposure, but not taking them ECNL seems like the same issue, different address. If CP only lost 3 players to ECNL teams, ECNL may not be the motivating force for the girls that stayed... What is gained from the move?

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

Packrabbit wrote:What am I missing?  There are a lot of factual statements issued, then followed by back-peddling when asked directly to clarify.  I haven't been on forum long enough to know how these things play out.  

I thought it was a shame that such a good team/coach not getting deserved college exposure, but there was so much rationalizing, defending the LP status quo so I figured it wasn't a CP/LP concern. Everything I have seen here seems to imply its a good move for the team, but I am not seeing the benefit of the move for the girls, unless there is some unknown club concern. 

It's a lot of big dogs in one place--It's hard to see Solca or those parents standing asides for anyone... If the common wisdom is that CP is moving to get his girls better exposure, but not taking them ECNL seems like the same issue, different address. If CP only lost 3 players to ECNL teams, ECNL may not be the motivating force for the girls that stayed... What is gained from the move?

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Andromeda, Liverpool, maybe solar So two maybe three.

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

Packrabbit wrote:What am I missing?  There are a lot of factual statements issued, then followed by back-peddling when asked directly to clarify.  I haven't been on forum long enough to know how these things play out.  

I thought it was a shame that such a good team/coach not getting deserved college exposure, but there was so much rationalizing, defending the LP status quo so I figured it wasn't a CP/LP concern. Everything I have seen here seems to imply its a good move for the team, but I am not seeing the benefit of the move for the girls, unless there is some unknown club concern. 

It's a lot of big dogs in one place--It's hard to see Solca or those parents standing asides for anyone... If the common wisdom is that CP is moving to get his girls better exposure, but not taking them ECNL seems like the same issue, different address. If CP only lost 3 players to ECNL teams, ECNL may not be the motivating force for the girls that stayed... What is gained from the move?

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Andromeda, Liverpool, maybe solar So two maybe three.

Also probably more relevant and available to the boys side not girls.

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

Packrabbit wrote:What am I missing?  There are a lot of factual statements issued, then followed by back-peddling when asked directly to clarify.  I haven't been on forum long enough to know how these things play out.  

I thought it was a shame that such a good team/coach not getting deserved college exposure, but there was so much rationalizing, defending the LP status quo so I figured it wasn't a CP/LP concern. Everything I have seen here seems to imply its a good move for the team, but I am not seeing the benefit of the move for the girls, unless there is some unknown club concern. 

It's a lot of big dogs in one place--It's hard to see Solca or those parents standing asides for anyone... If the common wisdom is that CP is moving to get his girls better exposure, but not taking them ECNL seems like the same issue, different address. If CP only lost 3 players to ECNL teams, ECNL may not be the motivating force for the girls that stayed... What is gained from the move?

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Andromeda, Liverpool, maybe solar So two maybe three.

Liverpool's ties with UK are closer than Solar and Chelsea or Andromeda and Tottenham, don't kid yourself.

InaB wrote:OK people, my question is, has CP really left LP? He is still on their web page. Either they are in denial or he is waiting to go for some reason.

I will say that no one from his team is putting up a denial however.

edited to add comment.

Maybe the parents are in Edmond, OK supporting their kids, as they make a run for Regional Champions.  Probably much more important to them then what is posted on this forum.

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

PDub wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:

The benefits are not having to explain who Liverpool is to college coaches and why your dd is playing for them.  They all know Texans, Sting, Solar, Feet and FC Dallas.  And also where to see them.  

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Andromeda, Liverpool, maybe solar So two maybe three.

Liverpool's ties with UK are closer than Solar and Chelsea or Andromeda and Tottenham, don't kid yourself.

Your question was, How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with the affiliated clubs? I have heard of the boys going over and coaches, but no girls.

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

PDub wrote:

This is a ignorant statement of I havent heard one.  Im guessing playing ECNL is the "ONLY" way to get into college and "NO" coaches in the history of coaching has "NEVER" heard of Liverpool??

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Andromeda, Liverpool, maybe solar So two maybe three.

Liverpool's ties with UK are closer than Solar and Chelsea or Andromeda and Tottenham, don't kid yourself.

Your question was, How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with the affiliated clubs? I have heard of the boys going over and coaches, but no girls.

Oh yeah I forgot to add the twins take a group of boys every year to brazil to train with Santos.

maybe a RASE girl will be the first to be signed with the Liverpool first team!!   They could use the help and maybe one of them would teach Suarez that biting is not nice!!

UEFA wrote:

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

Don't they play in the EPL?

How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with their affiliated pro club? I understand the whole ECNL thing but I think you underestimate ties that have been made with Liverpool in UK and what it could mean going forward. Just My opinion.

Andromeda, Liverpool, maybe solar So two maybe three.

Liverpool's ties with UK are closer than Solar and Chelsea or Andromeda and Tottenham, don't kid yourself.

Your question was, How many clubs offer their kids opportunities to go to Europe and practice with the affiliated clubs? I have heard of the boys going over and coaches, but no girls.

Oh yeah I forgot to add the twins take a group of boys every year to brazil to train with Santos.

They are not a club though, more a $$$ thing.

09:37:45

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:maybe a RASE girl will be the first to be signed with the Liverpool first team!!   They could use the help and maybe one of them would teach Suarez that biting is not nice!!

Or andro can take their administrators over to Tottenham and make them bankrupt and lose their stadium!?

the Liverpool connection is nothing more than a brilliant marketing plan from PB and a convenient way for LFC to sell jerseys, that's it, buy into it anymore than that and you are drunk off the kool-aid

if LFC (UK) really gave a crap anymore then they would have more interest in the quality of the club, orginaization, fields, coaching...and they sure as hell aren't looking at players to come to their academy

go99 wrote:if pulp leaves his team will have to retain 75% on a CL roster otherwise the bye will stay with LP.  His leaving would be a big loss for liverpool and possibly highlights organizational problems.  LP is so busy growing bigger they are losing the focus on being different or better.  In the end will end up being just another really big club

IMHO, LP NEVER had a focus on being different or better, just a focus on being one of the biggest clubs (actually PB wants LP to be THE biggest).

giampiero boniperti wrote:the Liverpool connection is nothing more than a brilliant marketing plan from PB and a convenient way for LFC to sell jerseys, that's it, buy into it anymore than that and you are drunk off the kool-aid

if LFC (UK) really gave a crap anymore then they would have more interest in the quality of the club, orginaization, fields, coaching...and they sure as hell aren't looking at players to come to their academy

Bingo, Yahtzee, you sank my battle ship

giampiero boniperti wrote:the Liverpool connection is nothing more than a brilliant marketing plan from PB and a convenient way for LFC to sell jerseys, that's it, buy into it anymore than that and you are drunk off the kool-aid

if LFC (UK) really gave a crap anymore then they would have more interest in the quality of the club, orginaization, fields, coaching...and they sure as hell aren't looking at players to come to their academy

Really? You know that for sure?

Master Bates wrote:

giampiero boniperti wrote:the Liverpool connection is nothing more than a brilliant marketing plan from PB and a convenient way for LFC to sell jerseys, that's it, buy into it anymore than that and you are drunk off the kool-aid

if LFC (UK) really gave a crap anymore then they would have more interest in the quality of the club, orginaization, fields, coaching...and they sure as hell aren't looking at players to come to their academy

Really? You know that for sure?

Nothing is for sure, but it seems a lot of other clubs kicking themselves wondering, why they did not think of it?

I've always thought LP was hanging their hats on the home grown teams that are coming up through academy to help them finally break through.  Weren't CP's teams brought over with him from his previous coaching stops?

I think there probably is some truth to the thinking that in the past many college coaches didn't know who LP was (as far as a club in Dallas) but heck they've only been around for 5 or 6 years. From what I can tell the RASE program has been fairly successful on the Academy level and if they can keep the 03's and 04's together they shouldn't have a problem getting recognized.

Honestly though, I really think folks that play ECNL are given a script that says "repeat after me, if anyone asks why you are paying a crap load of money to travel around and play teams with less talent than the teams you play against here in NTX, just say it's because ECNL is the only place to be seen by college coaches"

From the little I've seen from FB pics and talking to a few of the coaches that went, it really does sound like Liverpool has taken a much bigger interest in LP FCA. However that was just from a few months or so ago so I don't think you are going to see anything drastic that quickly but they sure seem to believe it's going to be something different.

GrandTXSoccer wrote:I've always thought LP was hanging their hats on the home grown teams that are coming up through academy to help them finally break through.  Weren't CP's teams brought over with him from his previous coaching stops?

I think there probably is some truth to the thinking that in the past many college coaches didn't know who LP was (as far as a club in Dallas) but heck they've only been around for 5 or 6 years. From what I can tell the RASE program has been fairly successful on the Academy level and if they can keep the 03's and 04's together they shouldn't have a problem getting recognized.

Honestly though, I really think folks that play ECNL are given a script that says "repeat after me, if anyone asks why you are paying a crap load of money to travel around and play teams with less talent than the teams you play against here in NTX, just say it's because ECNL is the only place to be seen by college coaches"

From the little I've seen from FB pics and talking to a few of the coaches that went, it really does sound like Liverpool has taken a much bigger interest in LP FCA. However that was just from a few months or so ago so I don't think you are going to see anything drastic that quickly but they sure seem to believe it's going to be something different.

Does Liverpool charge less? Or do they all charge a crap load of money. I do know that ECNL has a tendency to follow the boys side. Boys USSF academy programs are beginning to fund most if not all the cost!

i feel pretty strongly about the first part, PB is a business man, not that I have a problem with a guy making a living, I just wouldn't take my money there

I haven't seen anything to make me believe otherwise, guess I should have preceded with IMO

i admit there was a keeper that went over and trained with the academy

giampiero boniperti wrote:i feel pretty strongly about the first part, PB is a business man, not that I have a problem with a guy making a living, I just wouldn't take my money there

I haven't seen anything to make me believe otherwise, guess I should have preceded with IMO

i admit there was a keeper that went over and trained with the academy

One young lady! Man you have to love your chances!

UEFA wrote:

GrandTXSoccer wrote:I've always thought LP was hanging their hats on the home grown teams that are coming up through academy to help them finally break through.  Weren't CP's teams brought over with him from his previous coaching stops?

I think there probably is some truth to the thinking that in the past many college coaches didn't know who LP was (as far as a club in Dallas) but heck they've only been around for 5 or 6 years. From what I can tell the RASE program has been fairly successful on the Academy level and if they can keep the 03's and 04's together they shouldn't have a problem getting recognized.

Honestly though, I really think folks that play ECNL are given a script that says "repeat after me, if anyone asks why you are paying a crap load of money to travel around and play teams with less talent than the teams you play against here in NTX, just say it's because ECNL is the only place to be seen by college coaches"

From the little I've seen from FB pics and talking to a few of the coaches that went, it really does sound like Liverpool has taken a much bigger interest in LP FCA. However that was just from a few months or so ago so I don't think you are going to see anything drastic that quickly but they sure seem to believe it's going to be something different.

Does Liverpool charge less? Or do they all charge a crap load of money. I do know that ECNL has a tendency to follow the boys side. Boys USSF academy programs are beginning to fund most if not all the cost!

The challenge will be to keep hold of LW and the 03, 04 and 05 teams.

Master Bates wrote:

UEFA wrote:

GrandTXSoccer wrote:I've always thought LP was hanging their hats on the home grown teams that are coming up through academy to help them finally break through.  Weren't CP's teams brought over with him from his previous coaching stops?

I think there probably is some truth to the thinking that in the past many college coaches didn't know who LP was (as far as a club in Dallas) but heck they've only been around for 5 or 6 years. From what I can tell the RASE program has been fairly successful on the Academy level and if they can keep the 03's and 04's together they shouldn't have a problem getting recognized.

Honestly though, I really think folks that play ECNL are given a script that says "repeat after me, if anyone asks why you are paying a crap load of money to travel around and play teams with less talent than the teams you play against here in NTX, just say it's because ECNL is the only place to be seen by college coaches"

From the little I've seen from FB pics and talking to a few of the coaches that went, it really does sound like Liverpool has taken a much bigger interest in LP FCA. However that was just from a few months or so ago so I don't think you are going to see anything drastic that quickly but they sure seem to believe it's going to be something different.

Does Liverpool charge less? Or do they all charge a crap load of money. I do know that ECNL has a tendency to follow the boys side. Boys USSF academy programs are beginning to fund most if not all the cost!

The challenge will be to keep hold of LW and the 03, 04 and 05 teams.

Yes, yes, yes get out you pocket books! LW is in a great bargaining position! Remember it's a business.

Unfortunately CP has left a huge crack for other coaches to exploit and has left huge doubt amongst LP supporters. Just my opinion!