Why is there No protection given to Keepers anymore

GGoat wrote:Triumph this is what you said " the technique is to come and get hands in the ball including the forearms" How else do you come in hands first without face first The way soc dad said it is the way she has been trained to do it "Sliding is a very effective tool.  a Sideway Feet first slide...How many keepers go head first...none.  Legs, knees and hands and arms are all supposed to be used as blockages. " But thats ok a lot of coaches in rec think just put the biggest slowest player in the goal and tel them to catch it with their hands and forearms also

jsullivan81 wrote:GG -  We get it. Your kid gets fouled often and never gets calls.

Arguing with everyone isn't proving your point though.

GGoat wrote:

beastmaster wrote:

GGoat wrote:Soc dad when was the last time you saw a red card given or even a call made when the keeper gets run into kicked or knocked down when they get to the ball first it rarely ever happens any more thats what im saying in my post

Actually I have seen the forward on my dd's team receive a yellow card for running into a keeper.  Her team has also had a couple goals called back because someone had contact with the keeper. I have also watched a keeper use the leg in the air to trip a forward and no call made.   Being a keeper is a hazardous job and while yes they need to protect themselves, every other player on the field should also protect themselves.  

My dd is a keeper and I expect her to protect herself. She has been playing keeper for about 8 years. I can't help but very much disagree with your argument. She has received the benefit of the doubt from refs and has been warned when her play is borderline, but she has never been called for appropriately protecting herself.

Well we did this weekend and another keeper was red carded in another post for not getting to the ball first and tripping a player . I have seen calls made if the keeper is standing with the ball in both hands and a player runs into her. One time she had caught the ball and had it wrapped up on the ground and the forward was kicking it a few times and the ref made a call but no card. What im talking about is a 50 50 ball where the keeper gets to the ball first and the forward then runs into the keeper or flips over her or knocks her down there is no call or warning but if the forward get to the ball first and flips over the keeper its a pk or warning or a red card

GGoat wrote:

jsullivan81 wrote:GG -  We get it. Your kid gets fouled often and never gets calls.

Arguing with everyone isn't proving your point though.

Its not just my kid its keepers in general We are use to it. It is part of the game now I just dont understand when and why it has changed

GGoat wrote:Thanks triumph great video I loved all the knees and kicks to the head and face and all those saves made with the legs and feet Im showing it to her it really is a good video everyone should watch it

Triumph FC wrote:

GGoat wrote:Thanks triumph great video I loved all the knees and kicks to the head and face and all those saves made with the legs and feet Im showing it to her it really is a good video everyone should watch it

Excellent and not one sideways feet first slide!   

GGoat wrote:Triumph this is what you said " the technique is to come and get hands in the ball including the forearms" How else do you come in hands first without face first The way soc dad said it is the way she has been trained to do it "Sliding is a very effective tool.  a Sideway Feet first slide...How many keepers go head first...none.  Legs, knees and hands and arms are all supposed to be used as blockages. " But thats ok a lot of coaches in rec think just put the biggest slowest player in the goal and tel them to catch it with their hands and forearms also

Triumph FC wrote:

GGoat wrote:Triumph this is what you said " the technique is to come and get hands in the ball including the forearms" How else do you come in hands first without face first The way soc dad said it is the way she has been trained to do it "Sliding is a very effective tool.  a Sideway Feet first slide...How many keepers go head first...none.  Legs, knees and hands and arms are all supposed to be used as blockages. " But thats ok a lot of coaches in rec think just put the biggest slowest player in the goal and tel them to catch it with their hands and forearms also

I guess that wasnt you saying it then!

GGoat wrote:Ok what ever I guess I just made up the fact that she was called for a pk in a 1-1 tied game. The ref stated that she lifted her leg too high when she dove and the other poster made up the fact that the keeper was given a red card in another game this weekend and soc dad made up the fact that in the liverpool game the keeper was laid out and no card was given. I have never said that the position is not safe or she should play another position. The examples I gave happens every weekend here in north texas and a lot of it happened this weekend. The point is when a striker runs into a keeper there is usually no call made and even if the call is made it doesn't have a bearing on the game thats why they keep doing it hoping for a call or a loose ball But when the ref Calls a keeper for raising her leg too high or red carding a keeper and taking them out of a game it changes the entire game. Im sorry your dd got a bruise she should probably stay in the stands for a while. Every game every day strikers run into keepers it is part of the game but refs like you are the problem and continue to let it happen. If your not going to call it when the striker hits the keeper then dont call it when the keeper hits the stikers and change the outcome of the game. Yours and the triumphs comments that my dd not tough enough to play and all that bs just shows what kind of people you are. Yall are probably the stereotypical coaches and refs that give youth soccer a bad name. good luck and good by My question was answered thanks

beastmaster wrote:

GGoat wrote:Soc dad when was the last time you saw a red card given or even a call made when the keeper gets run into kicked or knocked down when they get to the ball first it rarely ever happens any more thats what im saying in my post

Actually I have seen the forward on my dd's team receive a yellow card for running into a keeper.  Her team has also had a couple goals called back because someone had contact with the keeper. I have also watched a keeper use the leg in the air to trip a forward and no call made.   Being a keeper is a hazardous job and while yes they need to protect themselves, every other player on the field should also protect themselves.  

My dd is a keeper and I expect her to protect herself. She has been playing keeper for about 8 years. I can't help but very much disagree with your argument. She has received the benefit of the doubt from refs and has been warned when her play is borderline, but she has never been called for appropriately protecting herself.

GGoat wrote:Ok what ever I guess I just made up the fact that she was called for a pk in a 1-1 tied game. The ref stated that she lifted her leg too high when she dove and the other poster made up the fact that the keeper was given a red card in another game this weekend and soc dad made up the fact that in the liverpool game the keeper was laid out and no card was given. I have never said that the position is not safe or she should play another position. The examples I gave happens every weekend here in north texas and a lot of it happened this weekend. The point is when a striker runs into a keeper there is usually no call made and even if the call is made it doesn't have a bearing on the game thats why they keep doing it hoping for a call or a loose ball But when the ref Calls a keeper for raising her leg too high or red carding a keeper and taking them out of a game it changes the entire game. Im sorry your dd got a bruise she should probably stay in the stands for a while. Every game every day strikers run into keepers it is part of the game but refs like you are the problem and continue to let it happen. If your not going to call it when the striker hits the keeper then dont call it when the keeper hits the stikers and change the outcome of the game.Yours and the triumphs comments that my dd not tough enough to play and all that bs just shows what kind of people you are. Yall are probably the stereotypical coaches and refs that give youth soccer a bad name. good luck and good by My question was answered thanks

beastmaster wrote:

GGoat wrote:Ok what ever I guess I just made up the fact that she was called for a pk in a 1-1 tied game. The ref stated that she lifted her leg too high when she dove and the other poster made up the fact that the keeper was given a red card in another game this weekend and soc dad made up the fact that in the liverpool game the keeper was laid out and no card was given. I have never said that the position is not safe or she should play another position. The examples I gave happens every weekend here in north texas and a lot of it happened this weekend. The point is when a striker runs into a keeper there is usually no call made and even if the call is made it doesn't have a bearing on the game thats why they keep doing it hoping for a call or a loose ball But when the ref Calls a keeper for raising her leg too high or red carding a keeper and taking them out of a game it changes the entire game. Im sorry your dd got a bruise she should probably stay in the stands for a while. Every game every day strikers run into keepers it is part of the game but refs like you are the problem and continue to let it happen. If your not going to call it when the striker hits the keeper then dont call it when the keeper hits the stikers and change the outcome of the game.Yours and the triumphs comments that my dd not tough enough to play and all that bs just shows what kind of people you are. Yall are probably the stereotypical coaches and refs that give youth soccer a bad name. good luck and good by My question was answered thanks

If my dd lifts her leg high and trips another player I would totally expect her to be called for it. So your point is what? Sounds to me like the ref is correct. Keepers aren't immune from receiving cards.  And in the case of the LP keeper, the ref called it in favor of the keeper. No card was given,  but LP still received the ball.  

2028 wrote:GG I have watched my DD keep for a long time. It takes a special child to be a top notch keeper. Ultimately if you are an aggressive keeper and come out for a ball and don’t get there and impede the striker you’re going get rung up with a Red card and PK. Live by the sword die by the sword. Triumph makes a good point about being tough. There has been a many of time my DD got ran up on, cleated, kicked, etc. It rarely happens a  second time. The second time my DD isn’t the one getting hurt. The older she gets the more she will learn to recognize the dangers and how to deal with them. I tell my DD before every game “Be Smart, Be Tough, Protect Yourself, and try not to get thrown out!

GGoat wrote:Yep 2028 thats what we say also thats why she got the Pk this weekend she is very tough and has had a pk called on her before. She says I dont care how hard they hit and how bad it hurts Im going to get up first and she usually does. The striker will roll around on the ground trying  for a call. Triumph was saying keepers are wimpy not tough and they are afforded too much protection. I guess everyone is missing the point Im making which is Keepers are now fair game and expected to be tougher than all the rest and its normal for them to be run into run over and knocked down and like you said they have to be tough but risk a red card and a pk which will change the outcome of the game. So it is a 2 edged sword in which if the keepers is called with a penalty or red card it effects the game if the forward is called is has very little effect on the game and when was the last time you saw a forward given a red or yellow when not getting to a 50 50 ball first and hitting the keeper I havent seen it in a long time or like soc dad says ever. When a ref says raising you leg too high when she dives for a 1v1 ball the ref is saying to the keeper not to protect themself.  I guess thats why keepers arnt protected any more because it is expected for them to take the hits and be tougher than everyone else.