Age True and 9v9 in 2016 for NTX

I'm not negative at all! I'm just telling you that's what will happen. I'm happy you think I have such pull in the North Texas soccer world that my vote would sway them to play 9v9 at U11. I want it to happen it's just a lot of cost for the leagues to change and those are the customers of North Texas so nothing will change until it really has to. Again my source said summer 2017 which is 07's year for select. That gives everyone 2 years to get there act together.

Triumph FC wrote:No because it's more about development for the players. I will keep them on the same path as I did with the 03's and play 11v11 in the spring 2016. I'm not a fan of 11v11 at U11 but that's what the 06's will play unless North Texas demands the leagues play 9v9 and I don't see that happening

If the recommendation is 9v9 for the fall of 2016, why would you play 11v11 in the spring of 2016, only to go back to 9v9 in the fall?

Because they are recommendations it is not mandated hence that LH will not change until it is. The mandate will come Summer 2016 too late for the 06's. It could change but I'm just relaying the information I was given that it won't effect the 06's, something I've been saying all through this thread. That's why I'm sticking to my plan

Triumph FC wrote:Because they are recommendations it is not mandated hence that LH will not change until it is. The mandate will come Summer 2016 too late for the 06's. It could change but I'm just relaying the information I was given that it won't effect the 06's, something I've been saying all through this thread. That's why I'm sticking to my plan

So if the rumor is, changes hit Fall of 17 for the 07s... That means the 07s will be calendar age pure at that point(fall of 17 to go select, probably playing 9v9). What happen to the 06 birthyear 07s. Do they move up to the 06 age group?

Bingo boilerjoe!

Oh now your saying Bingo as if you get it all along Soccerfan!
My thoughts were that they would tell the 06 birthdate playing on 07's to find and 06 team and give them a year to bed in. That would mean missing their U10 academy year and go into select a year early but I think that is not going to happen so maybe tell the 07's playing on 08's that it will start with them will give it more of a fighting chance. I don't get the age pure part at all. I know some say there won't be as much physical development diversity but from Jan birthdate to Dec birthdate it's still 12 months the same as if it were Aug 05 to July 06 their school year!

Triumph FC wrote:Oh now your saying Bingo as if you get it all along Soccerfan!
My thoughts were that they would tell the 06 birthdate playing on 07's to find and 06 team and give them a year to bed in. That would mean missing their U10 academy year and go into select a year early but I think that is not going to happen so maybe tell the 07's playing on 08's that it will start with them will give it more of a fighting chance. I don't get the age pure part at all. I know some say there won't be as much physical development diversity but from Jan birthdate to Dec birthdate it's still 12 months the same as if it were Aug 05 to July 06 their school year!

So the 07s would be the 'super' age group with Aug 06s to Dec 07s? Is that what you are saying...I didn't understand(and realize you're making best guess)

Could be! Somebody has to be that group. I just think it's not going to be mandated (9v9 and possibly age pure) until 2016 which then leaves the question (if it happens) when do they start it. 07's 08's 09's?

There is a lot of change coming...

US Soccer soon to mandate DA Academy will begin at U9. Wouldn't ECNL follow in their lead??

Soccerfan79 wrote:There is a lot of change coming...

US Soccer soon to mandate DA Academy will begin at U9.  Wouldn't ECNL follow in their lead??

I sure hope not. I am looking forward to writing that big select check to watch my DD play against the 20th ranked team.

LaLiga06 wrote:So what was said coachdom?

I was told at the NTSSA AGM that USSF has voted to mandate small-sided up through U12 and birth year. I was told that USSF members organizations are aware and told to prepare, but asked not to talk about it until USSF makes their official announcement.

I heard both Fall 2016 and Fall 2017 by different people. Either way, the most fair thing to do is make the official announcement as soon as possible, so everyone across the country can prepare.

so then its just about when they announce it. good to know.

If small sided is better for development, then why wait to make the change? One year is plenty of time.

Per So Cal Forum:

USSF Establishes Player Development Initiatives
Small-Sided Format and Calendar Year Age Groups Mandated for 2017

On July 5, 2015 the USSF Board of Directors approved the “Player Development Initiatives” developed and proposed by the National Coaching Staff. These initiatives mandate a small-sided games format for Under 12 and younger age groups along with a move to calendar-year registration for all age groups.
The initiatives contain a graduated implementation schedule which include adoption as a Best Practice beginning in August, 2016 followed by mandatory implementation in August of 2017. National affiliates, such as US Youth Soccer (USYS) are free to adopt these initiatives earlier into their programing if they choose to do so.

Cal South is working diligently to assess the impact to National, State, and local programs. We will begin the process to develop an implementation and transition plan to facilitate these new requirements and enable us and our affiliates to execute these initiatives effectively. We will provide additional information as it becomes available.
A copy of the “Player Development Initiatives” slide deck distributed by USSF is provided as reference material.


http://www.socalsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61746

USSF Document:
http://www.calsouth.com/data/Root/CSGEmailBlasts/PlayerDevelopmentInitiatives-Approved07052015.pdf?utm_source=website+list&udm_medium=email&utm_term=email-link&utm_content=html&utm_campaign=USSF+Player+Development+Initiatives

Where is Mr. Triumph this morning.

What I am hearing is NTSSA will be "recommending" the calendar year for Fall 2016 and will capture the '06s, but it will be mandatory fall 2017.

The '06s age group would be Aug. 05 - Dec. 2006 birthdays...

Fall of 2017 when it is mandatory the '07s will be the first calendar year group to go thru...

So what needs to happen is NTSSA get off the pot put out some guidance and so that the current callendar 06s that are currently playing 07 can weigh their options.

Options to me sound like..
A.  they are allowed to go select with the current 06s, which means they need to start looking now for a squad.
b.  they wait it out and then the aug-dec calendar 06s are jumping into select trying to make established squads already...

interesting times ahead.

Soccerfan79 wrote:Where is Mr. Triumph this morning.

What I am hearing is NTSSA will be "recommending" the calendar year for Fall 2016 and will capture the '06s, but it will be mandatory fall 2017.

The '06s age group would be Aug. 05 - Dec. 2006 birthdays...

Fall of 2017 when it is mandatory the '07s will be the first calendar year group to go thru...

So what needs to happen is NTSSA get off the pot put out some guidance and so that the current callendar 06s that are currently playing 07 can weigh their options.

Options to me sound like..
A.  they are allowed to go select with the current 06s, which means they need to start looking now for a squad.
b.  they wait it out and then the aug-dec calendar 06s are jumping into select trying to make established squads already...

interesting times ahead.

It's exactly what I said! 06's will not be effected as they will let them go as 11v11. Still could change but unless NTSSA mandates it LH won't change. So Soccerfan stop your scaremongering and read......now go back and read on all the other posts what I said. Mandated by 2017 thus capturing 07's

You need to find some better contacts at NTSSA mi amigo...
im not getting into this debate with you again...

It will be 9v9 fall of 2016 for the 06s... official press release just hasnt been released from NTSSA yet.

The calendar year implementation has not been decided.

See below




USSF Establishes Player Development Initiatives
Small-Sided Format and Calendar Year Age Groups Mandated for 2017

On July 5, 2015 the USSF Board of Directors approved the “Player Development Initiatives” developed and proposed by the National Coaching Staff. These initiatives mandate a small-sided games format for Under 12 and younger age groups along with a move to calendar-year registration for all age groups.
The initiatives contain a graduated implementation schedule which include adoption as a Best Practice beginning in August, 2016 followed by mandatory implementation in August of 2017. National affiliates, such as US Youth Soccer (USYS) are free to adopt these initiatives earlier into their programing if they choose to do so.

Cal South is working diligently to assess the impact to National, State, and local programs. We will begin the process to develop an implementation and transition plan to facilitate these new requirements and enable us and our affiliates to execute these initiatives effectively. We will provide additional information as it becomes available.
A copy of the “Player Development Initiatives” slide deck distributed by USSF is provided as reference material.
Please contact Cal South’s Director of Coaching and Education, should you have any questions concerning these initiatives.
USSF Player Development Initiatives (PDF File)
http://www.calsouth.com/data/Root/CSGEmailBlasts/PlayerDevelopmentInitiatives-Approved07052015.pdf?utm_source=website+list&udm_medium=email&utm_term=email-link&utm_content=html&utm_campaign=USSF+Player+Development+Initiatives

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:See below




USSF Establishes Player Development Initiatives
Small-Sided Format and Calendar Year Age Groups Mandated for 2017

On July 5, 2015 the USSF Board of Directors approved the “Player Development Initiatives” developed and proposed by the National Coaching Staff. These initiatives mandate a small-sided games format for Under 12 and younger age groups along with a move to calendar-year registration for all age groups.
The initiatives contain a graduated implementation schedule which include adoption as a Best Practice beginning in August, 2016 followed by mandatory implementation in August of 2017. National affiliates, such as US Youth Soccer (USYS) are free to adopt these initiatives earlier into their programing if they choose to do so.

Cal South is working diligently to assess the impact to National, State, and local programs. We will begin the process to develop an implementation and transition plan to facilitate these new requirements and enable us and our affiliates to execute these initiatives effectively. We will provide additional information as it becomes available.
A copy of the “Player Development Initiatives” slide deck distributed by USSF is provided as reference material.
Please contact Cal South’s Director of Coaching and Education, should you have any questions concerning these initiatives.
USSF Player Development Initiatives (PDF File)
http://www.calsouth.com/data/Root/CSGEmailBlasts/PlayerDevelopmentInitiatives-Approved07052015.pdf?utm_source=website+list&udm_medium=email&utm_term=email-link&utm_content=html&utm_campaign=USSF+Player+Development+Initiatives

The way I read this is that this will affect everyone come 2017. Not just '06/'07 groups. Am I interpreting this wrong?

i hadnt even thought about that.... could be the case... wow.

This will tick me off, taking a full select year away from DD. I wonder how this affects ECNL?

Not going to happen!
Think about it
2016 RECOMMENDED. LH will not change in 2016 so 06's will play 11v11 and wont chance back to 9v9 so will be grandfathering in as the last U11 year to do 11v11 is a great possibilty
2017 MANDATED Everyone has to change and that is 07 select year.

Triumph FC wrote:Not going to happen!
Think about it
2016 RECOMMENDED. LH will not change in 2016 so 06's will play 11v11 and wont chance back to 9v9 so will be grandfathering in as the last U11 year to do 11v11 is a great possibilty
2017 MANDATED Everyone has to change and that is 07 select year.

Everyone as in every age group? I heard New York did everyone at once...already...

This is a possibility of ALL groups going AGE PURE which COULD be a nightmare for everyone! I just don't see it happening

Think that EVERYONE in this instance refers to that's when the change to 9v9 & calendar year becomes required instead of optional - as it appears to effectively be the case for 2016 / 06s going select.

Doubt anyone will spend money on changes until they absolutely must - human nature

Imagine a current sophomore heading into her Sr year Fall of 2017 not being able to play when rule goes into effect. Hopefully current select aged girls will be grandfathered out of this amendment