04 Rankings

Well said Shelby! They may well blow-up during the Aces Tournament but it would be weird for anybody to think Dalglish are not top three. Would be interested to know why DTN and Solar are not playing Aces? I heard Rowdies players were going to play for Davis!

These girls are 8 years old correct?

KatCon wrote:These girls are 8 years old correct?

Mine turns 7 Dec 1.

Most are 7

Master Bates wrote:Well said Shelby! They may well blow-up during the Aces Tournament but it would be weird for anybody to think Dalglish are not top three. Would be interested to know why DTN and Solar are not playing Aces? I heard Rowdies players were going to play for Davis!

If rowdies players are playing for Davis that would certainly skew the "silver" league unless of course it is not their top players.

Then again, I am surprised to see Beardsley playing in Silver but again all things considered this tourn is quite loaded even without DTN or Solar Ken.

If it's some of Bennet's top players would probably be worth movin them up to Gold!

Master Bates wrote:If it's some of Bennet's top players would probably be worth movin them up to Gold!

I doubt it as the coach would not put them in Silver... would he? If Davis is magically 6-7 goals better than Beardsley that weekend we will know why

lovesoccer wrote:

go99 wrote:

soccer4ever wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

I thought it was a fair ranking, considering Dalglish doesn't play in the 04 division. The top 4 teams are pretty evenly matched at this point. IMO, ranking Dalglish in the middle is only fair. Play with the 04's and win consistently, then they can move up.

Remember....this ranking is opinions.

You know they did play kennington twice. for a win and a tie. So maybe the Dalglish ranking is fair but then move Kenn down.

If we go that way then the rankings would be

DT North
DT Rowdies- Rowdies moves up with their win over TBG
TBD Elite- Moves down a spot due to their loss to Rowdies
LP Dalglish
Solar Kenn
etc....

If Solar & Dalglish are pretty evenly matched with a loss (during tourney) & tie during league play and Rowdies & DTN beating Solar this season. I would say Dalglish is pretty evenly matched with the top 3 teams and it could go either way and doesn't automatically #1 just because they play up in '03's. I think the top 3 could play up and have the same results Dalglish is having. All are good teams and could win or loss against each other any given day.

If you look at Texas Black Gold's record for the year, spring and Fall SDL along with their tournament results, they have 16 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties. That doesn't include their PSA standings in which they have lost their last 2 games. Coach says it is a different roster, but they are listed as Texas Black Gold Elite.
Don't get me wrong, they might be one of the hottest teams right now, but I still don't see them as belonging in the top 3. They have never beat Daglish, Solar Kenn, Fever, and quite a few others.
Top 5 team? Yes
Top 3? Not yet in my opinion.

I don't know that score should have been 2 to 2. The game was pretty even; rowdies and TBG should be about even on rankings. I'd like to see what will happen next week.... can they beat Solar Chelsea, can the Rowdies tie or beat DT Rosales????

FCsoccer1 wrote:I don't know that score should have been 2 to 2. The game was pretty even; rowdies and TBG should be about even on rankings. I'd like to see what will happen next week.... can they beat Solar Chelsea????

Honestly, if you look at teams overall records including tournament results, you get a better idea of how they should rank.
But it's still almost impossible to rank the top 5 teams right now.
I do think Fever and Odyssey are getting overlooked. If you look at their records this year (including tournament play), they are pretty impressive. And I believe they both beat Texas Black Gold just a few months ago in tournament play.

TCUDad wrote:

lovesoccer wrote:

go99 wrote:

soccer4ever wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

I thought it was a fair ranking, considering Dalglish doesn't play in the 04 division. The top 4 teams are pretty evenly matched at this point. IMO, ranking Dalglish in the middle is only fair. Play with the 04's and win consistently, then they can move up.

Remember....this ranking is opinions.

You know they did play kennington twice. for a win and a tie. So maybe the Dalglish ranking is fair but then move Kenn down.

If we go that way then the rankings would be

DT North
DT Rowdies- Rowdies moves up with their win over TBG
TBD Elite- Moves down a spot due to their loss to Rowdies
LP Dalglish
Solar Kenn
etc....

If Solar & Dalglish are pretty evenly matched with a loss (during tourney) & tie during league play and Rowdies & DTN beating Solar this season. I would say Dalglish is pretty evenly matched with the top 3 teams and it could go either way and doesn't automatically #1 just because they play up in '03's. I think the top 3 could play up and have the same results Dalglish is having. All are good teams and could win or loss against each other any given day.

If you look at Texas Black Gold's record for the year, spring and Fall SDL along with their tournament results, they have 16 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties. That doesn't include their PSA standings in which they have lost their last 2 games. Coach says it is a different roster, but they are listed as Texas Black Gold Elite.
Don't get me wrong, they might be one of the hottest teams right now, but I still don't see them as belonging in the top 3. They have never beat Daglish, Solar Kenn, Fever, and quite a few others.
Top 5 team? Yes
Top 3? Not yet in my opinion.

Seeing as I got my results from week 6 SDL rankings don't put fault on me. I know the current ranking system is only using SDL so that is why TBG Elite is ranked where they are. Period end of story!

FCsoccer1 wrote:I don't know that score should have been 2 to 2. The game was pretty even; rowdies and TBG should be about even on rankings. I'd like to see what will happen next week.... can they beat Solar Chelsea, can the Rowdies tie or beat DT Rosales????

At the end of the day Rowdies beat TBG even if it was pretty evenly matched. Rowdies deserve the pat on the back for the win. I will keep repeating myself all top 5 or so teams are evenly matched.

These girls need to come every week ready to play. If they have an off day it could mean a win or a loss. Just because our team beat or lost to them once doesn't mean the opposite won't happen then next time.

This weekend will be full of good games. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top between these top 4 teams.

lovesoccer wrote:

TCUDad wrote:

lovesoccer wrote:

go99 wrote:

soccer4ever wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

I thought it was a fair ranking, considering Dalglish doesn't play in the 04 division. The top 4 teams are pretty evenly matched at this point. IMO, ranking Dalglish in the middle is only fair. Play with the 04's and win consistently, then they can move up.

Remember....this ranking is opinions.

You know they did play kennington twice. for a win and a tie. So maybe the Dalglish ranking is fair but then move Kenn down.

If we go that way then the rankings would be

DT North
DT Rowdies- Rowdies moves up with their win over TBG
TBD Elite- Moves down a spot due to their loss to Rowdies
LP Dalglish
Solar Kenn
etc....

If Solar & Dalglish are pretty evenly matched with a loss (during tourney) & tie during league play and Rowdies & DTN beating Solar this season. I would say Dalglish is pretty evenly matched with the top 3 teams and it could go either way and doesn't automatically #1 just because they play up in '03's. I think the top 3 could play up and have the same results Dalglish is having. All are good teams and could win or loss against each other any given day.

If you look at Texas Black Gold's record for the year, spring and Fall SDL along with their tournament results, they have 16 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties. That doesn't include their PSA standings in which they have lost their last 2 games. Coach says it is a different roster, but they are listed as Texas Black Gold Elite.
Don't get me wrong, they might be one of the hottest teams right now, but I still don't see them as belonging in the top 3. They have never beat Daglish, Solar Kenn, Fever, and quite a few others.
Top 5 team? Yes
Top 3? Not yet in my opinion.

Seeing as I got my results from week 6 SDL rankings don't put fault on me. I know the current ranking system is only using SDL so that is why TBG Elite is ranked where they are. Period end of story!

Not faulting anyone. Just a friendly debate.

Most of the rankings posted so far are valid based on recent head to head results. Seems like there is a general consensus at least with the top 5 or 6 and I agree with most everybody if ranking with that methodology.

Just to mix things up a bit though, my rankings are based on quality of play from my personal assessments of the teams. I have had a chance to see many games first-hand from all the top teams since the summer and even recognize many of the individual players. Of course head to head results factor in, but I also take into account the way a team played to win or lose.

I agree that any of the top teams could win on a given day. I also don't think a tournament is the best way to rank a team because there are often guest players or players out. Throughout the course of a season, I think the teams should rank in the following way:

1. Dalglish - I know some of their parents are not popular but I do not see them losing to another 04 team, except maybe DTN. Their skill level is similar to the other top teams but to put it bluntly, they have more bigger, faster, and stronger kids than any other team. This will win them many games. They did not have two of their core players for their game against Solar.

2. DTN - Similar style to Dalglish. They can often overpower their opponents and they have one of the best forwards in the league. She was out when they last played TBG. DTN and Dalglish are the only teams I've seen that can consistently pass the ball around with success.

3. DT Bennett - Their aggressive and competitive play is obviously an influence of their former coach DM. They have a determined defense and a big strong forward. One of their best players is out with an injury. Their success is somewhat of a surprise as many believed their best players had left over the summer.

4. Solar Kennington - Has one of the best players in the league and their whole team gives 100% effort every game. Could probably jump into the top 2 if they added another impact player. Of course that's probably true of the other teams as well.

5. TBG - The surprise team of the season. They deserve their top 5 ranking with their recent results. Struggled over the summer but they have come out with a bang in SDL. Many talented kids on the team but their focal point is their forward who has caught many teams off-guard with her strength and speed. If they perform well in their tournament, they could jump a couple of spots.


That's how I would rank my top 5. Take it or leave it. Again, my rankings are primarily based on what I've seen, not just results. I will try and get a better look at the Primetime teams during the Nov tournaments and see if any should rank in the top 5. I'm sure at least two or three of them should be in the top 10.

any of the top 5 teams could beat each other any given day- i dont have any dog in this hunt but lets be honest..

the liverpools, texans, solars etc of the world- they get to hand pick the girls they want to select for the team- TBG plays only with the girls that sign up- the TBG girls dont attend skills camps or development training- thats what makes it even more impressive- their coach freddy is making a name for himself- to field a team that he doesnt get to hand pick his girls- and still be beating and getting draws against the top tier teams is a testiment to his coaching ability..

yes TBG was getting beat two or even three months ago- i even use to watch cartoons when i was a young buck- little people grow- you cant pull up the past when your making rankings weekly- if it makes you feel better to say- when my DD was 6 1/2 we beat you lol- using this SDL seasons results is understandable- using july or august scores is insane to rank a team on november 1..

Pettyyak who are you trying to fool? No dog in the hunt? You were already revealed as TBG a few weeks ago. It's okay to come on here and brag about your team. You have a great little team. You lose cred when you start using multiple names and lying about no dog in the hunt. I wish your team great success. Good luck in the upcoming tournament.

pettyyack wrote:any of the top 5 teams could beat each other any given day- i dont have any dog in this hunt but lets be honest..

the liverpools, texans, solars etc of the world- they get to hand pick the girls they want to select for the team- TBG plays only with the girls that sign up- the TBG girls dont attend skills camps or development training- thats what makes it even more impressive- their coach freddy is making a name for himself- to field a team that he doesnt get to hand pick his girls- and still be beating and getting draws against the top tier teams is a testiment to his coaching ability..

yes TBG was getting beat two or even three months ago- i even use to watch cartoons when i was a young buck- little people grow- you cant pull up the past when your making rankings weekly- if it makes you feel better to say- when my DD was 6 1/2 we beat you lol- using this SDL seasons results is understandable- using july or august scores is insane to rank a team on november 1..

Are you kidding? Of course you look at the past to make up the rankings. That is what rankings are based on.
In Aug 20th Primetime Tourney, you lost 2 games and were eliminated. You lost to Lady Aztecs and DT North and the only win was by one goal to Liverpool Beardsley. That was 10 weeks ago. It's not like it was last year. You also lost your last 2 PSA games and your last SDL game.
Just because you get on a hot streak doesn't mean you instantly earn the #1 position. If the #12 ranked team beats the top ranked team does that make them the top team? No
Would it be fair to be bumped down to the #15 ranking because you have lost your last 3 games? No

It's just like college football rankings. It takes consistency and big wins to be ranked on top. Maybe Texas Black Gold Elite is similiar to Boise State. Maybe you deserve more respect but Boise State earned respect by winning consistently not just winning a few big games.
I personally think it's neat to see such a small club do so well. More power to you.