Re: 04 Rankings

by SoccerDad4 27/10/11, 11:58 am

LP Beardsley and Texas Spirit play 9 v. 9 in 03G EAL.

How about asking Dom to play 9 v. 9 for the 04's at the Aces Tournament?

by Guest 27/10/11, 12:12 pm

Ads wrote:So I would assume that Dalglish should not even be considered in any 04 Rankings since they are playing up with 03's So who would be number one if Dalglish is out?

I agree that ranking teams in the same ranking when they don't play each other is difficult, but LP Dalglish is an '04 team and therefore should be considered in '04 rankings.

by TCUDad 27/10/11, 12:16 pm

I heard that Texas Black Gold Elite lost to sting east in the Plano league last week. Is that true?

by TBGsoccer 27/10/11, 12:25 pm

TCUDad wrote:I heard that Texas Black Gold Elite lost to sting east in the Plano league last week. Is that true?

True we lost 1-0 psa roster is not the same as sdl roster

by GeorgiaDawg 27/10/11, 12:57 pm

mcik17 wrote:However, I do see your point on going down to 7v7 and having 7 girls on the bench. You could sub all field players out and still have one on the bench that hasn't played. Playing time could be an issue!

Honestly, I don't care about rankings and my daughter has no clue where her team stands. One thing she does care about is getting to play. Win or lose, it was a good game when she spends more time playing than she did on the bench. For that reason alone, I would prefer to play 9v9 and not have six or seven kids on the bench.

by Shelby427 27/10/11, 03:19 pm

GeorgiaDawg wrote:
mcik17 wrote:However, I do see your point on going down to 7v7 and having 7 girls on the bench. You could sub all field players out and still have one on the bench that hasn't played. Playing time could be an issue!

Honestly, I don't care about rankings and my daughter has no clue where her team stands. One thing she does care about is getting to play. Win or lose, it was a good game when she spends more time playing than she did on the bench. For that reason alone, I would prefer to play 9v9 and not have six or seven kids on the bench.

Right I can see this and agree. If you are going to play 7v7 u should not invite entire 9v9 squad. More than 11-12 is too many.

by Gunner9 27/10/11, 03:24 pm

Out of curiousity, how many are rostered on the typical '04 team? Aren't the rosters fluid in academy? Is there much movement between teams during the season?

by jklinsmann 28/10/11, 09:49 pm

go99 wrote:That's just it. It is not detrimental to play one tournament against the 04's. It is also not helpful. So other than benefitting the board and parental ego's I don't see a reason to take girls who play 9v9 and have the change to play 7v7 and have even more kids sitting on the bench. All for what? I think the girls are having fun. I think they have fun in practice and the games. I think the fun is in the soccer but I will admit to being extreme on that end. I don't think scores should be taken at that age. I think playing to win and development are too different things. I think there is too much parental pressure to win and not enough to work hard, effort, show skill. I think confidence should be borne by a belief in what "you" do not by your team, wins, or useless trophies. Being on a top team does not make you a good player and being on a bad team does not make you a bad player.

Daglish parents. If your team plans to consistently play up against '03's and rarely match up with the '04s, I suggest you avoid this blog and spend time on the '03 blog. If there is no benefit playing "down" to the 7v7 format and you choose to rate yourself against '03s, why spend time in this blog? Don't get me wrong, the advice is great and it really gives the rest of us something to strive for. If I were in your shoes, I would want to spend time conversing with people my DD is competing with.

by KSD 28/10/11, 09:57 pm

jklinsman wrote:
go99 wrote:That's just it. It is not detrimental to play one tournament against the 04's. It is also not helpful. So other than benefitting the board and parental ego's I don't see a reason to take girls who play 9v9 and have the change to play 7v7 and have even more kids sitting on the bench. All for what? I think the girls are having fun. I think they have fun in practice and the games. I think the fun is in the soccer but I will admit to being extreme on that end. I don't think scores should be taken at that age. I think playing to win and development are too different things. I think there is too much parental pressure to win and not enough to work hard, effort, show skill. I think confidence should be borne by a belief in what "you" do not by your team, wins, or useless trophies. Being on a top team does not make you a good player and being on a bad team does not make you a bad player.

Daglish parents. If your team plans to consistently play up against '03's and rarely match up with the '04s, I suggest you avoid this blog and spend time on the '03 blog. If there is no benefit playing "down" to the 7v7 format and you choose to rate yourself against '03s, why spend time in this blog? Don't get me wrong, the advice is great and it really gives the rest of us something to strive for. If I were in your shoes, I would want to spend time conversing with people my DD is competing with.

I thought I saw where DaLglish (emphasis added on purpose) is playing with 04s in the upcoming tourney.

by Guest 28/10/11, 10:18 pm

Daglish are playing in 04 division for Aces Tournament. I wonder if the girls on the team are as bothered about all this as we are. Makes you feel kinda pathetic really!!

by Guest 28/10/11, 10:20 pm

DaLglish

by Moosh98 28/10/11, 10:31 pm

Way to represent Rangers!!

by KSD 28/10/11, 10:38 pm

Moosh98 wrote:Way to represent Rangers!!

Just wasn't meant to be. Still love the team and can't wait for opening day! We're young and with some more experience will win one of these World Series eventually.

by Moosh98 28/10/11, 10:44 pm

kellersoccerdad wrote:
Moosh98 wrote:Way to represent Rangers!!

Just wasn't meant to be. Still love the team and can't wait for opening day! We're young and with some more experience will win one of these World Series eventually.

It doesnt get much better down to the last strike with a 2 run lead. cryin shame

by go99 28/10/11, 10:48 pm

jklinsman wrote:
go99 wrote:That's just it. It is not detrimental to play one tournament against the 04's. It is also not helpful. So other than benefitting the board and parental ego's I don't see a reason to take girls who play 9v9 and have the change to play 7v7 and have even more kids sitting on the bench. All for what? I think the girls are having fun. I think they have fun in practice and the games. I think the fun is in the soccer but I will admit to being extreme on that end. I don't think scores should be taken at that age. I think playing to win and development are too different things. I think there is too much parental pressure to win and not enough to work hard, effort, show skill. I think confidence should be borne by a belief in what "you" do not by your team, wins, or useless trophies. Being on a top team does not make you a good player and being on a bad team does not make you a bad player.

Daglish parents. If your team plans to consistently play up against '03's and rarely match up with the '04s, I suggest you avoid this blog and spend time on the '03 blog. If there is no benefit playing "down" to the 7v7 format and you choose to rate yourself against '03s, why spend time in this blog? Don't get me wrong, the advice is great and it really gives the rest of us something to strive for. If I were in your shoes, I would want to spend time conversing with people my DD is competing with.

Wow

Bitter much. If we rank your team above us can we stay? Feel free to leave Daglish out of the rankings if it makes you happy, could really care less. BTW looks like some form of Daglish will be playing in the 04's. Not sure if we are missing players or what the reason for it is but somebody will be there

by KSD 28/10/11, 10:55 pm

Moosh98 wrote:
kellersoccerdad wrote:
Moosh98 wrote:Way to represent Rangers!!

Just wasn't meant to be. Still love the team and can't wait for opening day! We're young and with some more experience will win one of these World Series eventually.

It doesnt get much better down to the last strike with a 2 run lead. cryin shame

Yeah. Won't lie... I was a WRECK last night and completely useless today... but watching my DD fly around at the RASE practice tonight lifted my spirits. And 5 soccer games between all my kids this weekend will make it all better. cheers

by Moosh98 28/10/11, 10:56 pm

I wont be going to the airport to welcome them home

by jklinsmann 28/10/11, 11:34 pm

go99 wrote:
jklinsman wrote:
go99 wrote:That's just it. It is not detrimental to play one tournament against the 04's. It is also not helpful. So other than benefitting the board and parental ego's I don't see a reason to take girls who play 9v9 and have the change to play 7v7 and have even more kids sitting on the bench. All for what? I think the girls are having fun. I think they have fun in practice and the games. I think the fun is in the soccer but I will admit to being extreme on that end. I don't think scores should be taken at that age. I think playing to win and development are too different things. I think there is too much parental pressure to win and not enough to work hard, effort, show skill. I think confidence should be borne by a belief in what "you" do not by your team, wins, or useless trophies. Being on a top team does not make you a good player and being on a bad team does not make you a bad player.

Daglish parents. If your team plans to consistently play up against '03's and rarely match up with the '04s, I suggest you avoid this blog and spend time on the '03 blog. If there is no benefit playing "down" to the 7v7 format and you choose to rate yourself against '03s, why spend time in this blog? Don't get me wrong, the advice is great and it really gives the rest of us something to strive for. If I were in your shoes, I would want to spend time conversing with people my DD is competing with.

Wow Bitter much. If we rank your team above us can we stay? Feel free to leave Daglish out of the rankings if it makes you happy, could really care less. BTW looks like some form of Daglish will be playing in the 04's. Not sure if we are missing players or what the reason for it is but somebody will be there

Bitter much not so much. Just a suggestion that may have hit a little too close to home. I am sure everyone in the forum appreciates your squads taking the time to drop down to assert their domination. Daglish or DaLglish aside, for a team that pretends to care so much about their '03 competition, a lot of time is spent by LP supporters commenting on '04 teams. Once again, their is a blog for '03's........

by Guest 29/10/11, 06:25 am

They are an 04 team. A group of 6, 7 and 8 year old girls, stop being so bitter!

by Guest 29/10/11, 06:27 am

And it's KlinsmanN, with two n's!

by go99 29/10/11, 09:02 am

I don't thing of a "dropping down" or any other derogatory term you would like to use to inflame a little Daglish hate. I said I don't see the purpose or need for it other than to help the board decide where the teams are ranked. I could care less where they are ranked. I don't see a reason to bother changing the formation they play in for just a weekend. I don't see a reason to have a bunch of girls sitting on the sideline just so parental ego's can be satisfied. It may work for your DD because the coach will play her the whole game while others sit but our coach will try an balance the playtime. I don't know how many kids we have showing for the afc but I personally have no intention to spend my weekend watching my dd sit in a pack of girls.

But here is a tip for you. It's not your forum. It's a public forum so you are more than welcome to not read the post or drop of the forum.

by the7wolf 29/10/11, 11:12 am

go99 wrote:I don't thing of a "dropping down" or any other derogatory term you would like to use to inflame a little Daglish hate. I said I don't see the purpose or need for it other than to help the board decide where the teams are ranked. I could care less where they are ranked. I don't see a reason to bother changing the formation they play in for just a weekend. I don't see a reason to have a bunch of girls sitting on the sideline just so parental ego's can be satisfied. It may work for your DD because the coach will play her the whole game while others sit but our coach will try an balance the playtime. I don't know how many kids we have showing for the afc but I personally have no intention to spend my weekend watching my dd sit in a pack of girls.

But here is a tip for you. It's not your forum. It's a public forum so you are more than welcome to not read the post or drop of the forum.

It's not like even the starter of this thread uses any meaningful method, including head-to-head results or league standings(!!!), to offer their opinion of the rankings anyway. For instance, our team (Liverpool Barnes) is on top of the second division having won all of it's games but ranked 4 places behind a team we beat 4-1 in the same division. Solar Red Crushers who are midway in D1 are ranked 20th!

Just play where you want to play and don't worry about fanatics who are obssessed about ranking teams 3 1/2 years out from select. I could care less if we are ranked 15th or 45th but it's entertaining to poke holes in rankings which look like they've been put together by the dumber half of Pinky & The Brain!

by lovesoccer 29/10/11, 04:53 pm

Tap_the_Brakes wrote:
Ads wrote:So I would assume that Dalglish should not even be considered in any 04 Rankings since they are playing up with 03's So who would be number one if Dalglish is out?

I agree that ranking teams in the same ranking when they don't play each other is difficult, but LP Dalglish is an '04 team and therefore should be considered in '04 rankings.

Last year SRSA & DTS '03 wasn't considered in the '03 rankings during spring season if I remember correctly as they were not playing other '03 teams. The '02 as a courtesy did rank the SRSA & DTS '03 in the '02 rankings since they were playing up and beating D1 '02 squads.

Now it was assumed that SRSA was the top '03 team since they were beating top '02's but they weren't listed.

If you can't truly rank the caliber of teams Daglish is playing against other '04 teams playing each other then no they aren't part of the ranking system for our age bracket.

by Guest 29/10/11, 05:51 pm

Thanks God or should I say lovesoccer, they are 04s so let's rank them. SRSA and DTS are always ranked with the 03s so we should pay the same respect to Dalglish. Hate to reiterate but they are 7 and 8 year old kids, cut them some slack.

by Shelby427 29/10/11, 06:42 pm

Enough already. Dalglish is 04 end of story. Rankings are different than standings which apply to a specific season and league. Rankings are mostly opinion based on overall play. You can rank however you want but any rankings that leave off a team because they choose to play up most of the time will not be complete or credible. Dts and srsa are always ranked in the 03 rankings and they are also ranked where they compare with the 02s on occasion.

Finally, any team that plays in two age groups often is entitled to post and participate in discussions, rankings and other topics in both areas. This is not complicated people.

by Guest 29/10/11, 08:29 pm

Since this is America, a free country, two things are always true:
1. Snot Boogie is allowed to play dice even though he always grabs the money and runs.

2. If you don't like the way rankings are done then you can start your own.

Last spring in the '03 threads there were rankings that did not include the top 3 teams: SRSA, DT South and Samba. I just checked and they had Sting Mendoza, Juventus Black, Solar Red Webb and Cosmos Black as teams #1-#4. That is how they did their rankings. This fall's rankings have all the top '03s.

Start your own rankings and rank only the teams you want to rank. This is all just for fun anyway. Rank the top teams that play in '04 leagues. Rank the top teams that don't wear red. Have at it!

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