04 Rankings

Since this is America, a free country, two things are always true:
1. Snot Boogie is allowed to play dice even though he always grabs the money and runs.

2. If you don't like the way rankings are done then you can start your own.

Last spring in the '03 threads there were rankings that did not include the top 3 teams: SRSA, DT South and Samba. I just checked and they had Sting Mendoza, Juventus Black, Solar Red Webb and Cosmos Black as teams #1-#4. That is how they did their rankings. This fall's rankings have all the top '03s.

Start your own rankings and rank only the teams you want to rank. This is all just for fun anyway. Rank the top teams that play in '04 leagues. Rank the top teams that don't wear red. Have at it!

Tap_the_Brakes wrote:Since this is America, a free country, two things are always true:
1. Snot Boogie is allowed to play dice even though he always grabs the money and runs.

2. If you don't like the way rankings are done then you can start your own.

Last spring in the '03 threads there were rankings that did not include the top 3 teams: SRSA, DT South and Samba. I just checked and they had Sting Mendoza, Juventus Black, Solar Red Webb and Cosmos Black as teams #1-#4. That is how they did their rankings. This fall's rankings have all the top '03s.

Start your own rankings and rank only the teams you want to rank. This is all just for fun anyway. Rank the top teams that play in '04 leagues. Rank the top teams that don't wear red. Have at it!

True and to my point. If you rank the top teams wearing red it is meaningless.

The idea of rankings is to list the top teams hence the word rank. Any rankings that leave out any significant teams are as I said lacking in credibility and are incomplete.

To use your example of 03s, saying sting Mendoza is the number 1 03 team is just plain ignorant. The only people who would embrace such rankings are the teams and people whose rank increases because you leave out the real 1-3.

Now if you want to pretend Dalglish or any other team playing up does not exist you are free to live in any fantasy world you wish. I think most who read these boards and the few who care can tell the difference. In reality it is unfair to the real top teams to leave them out.

Shelby427 wrote:

Tap_the_Brakes wrote:Since this is America, a free country, two things are always true:
1. Snot Boogie is allowed to play dice even though he always grabs the money and runs.

2. If you don't like the way rankings are done then you can start your own.

Last spring in the '03 threads there were rankings that did not include the top 3 teams: SRSA, DT South and Samba. I just checked and they had Sting Mendoza, Juventus Black, Solar Red Webb and Cosmos Black as teams #1-#4. That is how they did their rankings. This fall's rankings have all the top '03s.

Start your own rankings and rank only the teams you want to rank. This is all just for fun anyway. Rank the top teams that play in '04 leagues. Rank the top teams that don't wear red. Have at it!

True and to my point. If you rank the top teams wearing red it is meaningless.

The idea of rankings is to list the top teams hence the word rank. Any rankings that leave out any significant teams are as I said lacking in credibility and are incomplete.

To use your example of 03s, saying sting Mendoza is the number 1 03 team is just plain ignorant. The only people who would embrace such rankings are the teams and people whose rank increases because you leave out the real 1-3.

Now if you want to pretend Dalglish or any other team playing up does not exist you are free to live in any fantasy world you wish. I think most who read these boards and the few who care can tell the difference. In reality it is unfair to the real top teams to leave them out.

Of course you want your team ranked #1 over here in the '04's even though they are not playing '04 teams. How is that giving an accurate judgement of this team? If they are not playing their same age peers you don't get a true gauge of the team and their abilities against their peer teams. How do we know the caliber of the teams they are playing over in the '03's is so much harder then their '04 competition? Do we just take LP parents work on it?

Don't get me wrong I know SRSA & DTS '03 are the top '03 teams. I have seen them beating up on top D1 '02 teams. I don't deny that but last spring neither teams where in the '03 rankings because they were not playing their same age peers. Now it was assumed they were the top teams but they weren't ranked in their age bracket.

I think LPD needs to be ranked with the '03's as that is where they are playing. If they so choice to move back down into the '04 bracket then by all means rank them here. At the end of the day we DO NOT know LPD is the #1 team since they have yet to match up against any of the '04 teams this season.

Okay they are 04's and first you do not "know" anything about them. There are several really good teams that could do anything based on the day. It is my belief that Kenn is a better team that TBG even though they lost to them. The soccer being played is at a higher level and they have a player who is one of the best in the age group. It is my belief that Texans bennet is very strong and a player or two away from being dominant. I think TBG was also lucky to play the team when the engine to that offense was out with a broken arm. Kenn has better soccer but the bennet team is definitely more aggressive and competative. I think now that rosales has started to spread the ball around for more kids to score they have really started to show elite form. Also very hard charging and competative. Very hard to beat on a consistent basis. Obviously TBG is doing something right. Certianly in the mix but a little worried about the style of play. DTS, unless they have lost players should be a squad to keep an eye on.

Playing 9v9 I do think Daglish would be the top team. Having a deeper squad helps when more kids are on the field. 7v7 is a much tighter race but I see the tightest game for Daglish with the Rosales bunch. I also think the adjustment going back to 7v7 and a smaller field is going to be a bigger on than many of the daglish parents realize. Will definitely be an interesting tournament as long as we don't carry the full squad.

lovesoccer wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

Tap_the_Brakes wrote:Since this is America, a free country, two things are always true:
1. Snot Boogie is allowed to play dice even though he always grabs the money and runs.

2. If you don't like the way rankings are done then you can start your own.

Last spring in the '03 threads there were rankings that did not include the top 3 teams: SRSA, DT South and Samba. I just checked and they had Sting Mendoza, Juventus Black, Solar Red Webb and Cosmos Black as teams #1-#4. That is how they did their rankings. This fall's rankings have all the top '03s.

Start your own rankings and rank only the teams you want to rank. This is all just for fun anyway. Rank the top teams that play in '04 leagues. Rank the top teams that don't wear red. Have at it!

True and to my point. If you rank the top teams wearing red it is meaningless.

The idea of rankings is to list the top teams hence the word rank. Any rankings that leave out any significant teams are as I said lacking in credibility and are incomplete.

To use your example of 03s, saying sting Mendoza is the number 1 03 team is just plain ignorant. The only people who would embrace such rankings are the teams and people whose rank increases because you leave out the real 1-3.

Now if you want to pretend Dalglish or any other team playing up does not exist you are free to live in any fantasy world you wish. I think most who read these boards and the few who care can tell the difference. In reality it is unfair to the real top teams to leave them out.

Of course you want your team ranked #1 over here in the '04's even though they are not playing '04 teams. How is that giving an accurate judgement of this team? If they are not playing their same age peers you don't get a true gauge of the team and their abilities against their peer teams. How do we know the caliber of the teams they are playing over in the '03's is so much harder then their '04 competition? Do we just take LP parents work on it?

Don't get me wrong I know SRSA & DTS '03 are the top '03 teams. I have seen them beating up on top D1 '02 teams. I don't deny that but last spring neither teams where in the '03 rankings because they were not playing their same age peers. Now it was assumed they were the top teams but they weren't ranked in their age bracket.

I think LPD needs to be ranked with the '03's as that is where they are playing. If they so choice to move back down into the '04 bracket then by all means rank them here. At the end of the day we DO NOT know LPD is the #1 team since they have yet to match up against any of the '04 teams this season.

If your rankings say "04 rankings" then Dalglish qualifys because they are 04s. It really is that simple.

If you want to rank WITHOUT them say "04 Rankings of teams playing only 04s" or "04 teams without the possible best teams who play up in 03".

Again, 04 Rankings imply you are listing the top teams in that age bracket. No more and no less. It does NOT imply you listing teams who only play 04s, wear red sox, or play 7v7 or 9v9.

Just because you don't know they are number 1 for sure doens't mean you take them off. You are free to guess them as number 2, 3 ect.

04 Rankings are for TOP 04 teams. This is what it means. Is Dalglish a top 04 team? Yes. So obviously they belong in such listings. You want to add a "qualifier" and CHANGE what Rankings are for who knows why. As others have said, you can make your own rankings whenever you want without them, just don't exepct anyone to give them much attention.

Rankings
1 - DT North
2 - Solar Ken
3 - Rowdies
4 - Texas Black Gold
5 - Fever
6 - DT South
7 - Texas Spirit North
8 - Odyssey
9 - Aztecs
10- LP Beardsley
11- Dalglish ***

*** - Would be ranked higher if they were to compete with other 04 teams.

Ads wrote:Rankings
1 - DT North
2 - Solar Ken
3 - Rowdies
4 - Texas Black Gold
5 - Fever
6 - DT South
7 - Texas Spirit North
8 - Odyssey
9 - Aztecs
10- LP Beardsley
11- Dalglish ***

*** - Would be ranked higher if they were to compete with other 04 teams.

1. Solar Kenn
2. DT North
3a. TBG
3b. Rowdies
5. Fever
6. L Aztecs
7. DT south
8. Beardsley
9. Texas Spirit North
10. Sting East

I will admit that Dalglish should be at the top but will not list.

Top 4 teams can beat each other on any given day.

1 / 2 DT Benet and DT North
3 / 4 Solar Ken and TBG
5. LP Dalglish
6. DT South
7. Texas Spirit North
8. Fever
9. Odyssey
10. LP Beardsley

soccer4ever wrote:Top 4 teams can beat each other on any given day.

1 / 2 DT Benet and DT North
3 / 4 Solar Ken and TBG
5. LP Dalglish
6. DT South
7. Texas Spirit North
8. Fever
9. Odyssey
10. LP Beardsley

Obviosuly, people put bizarre rankings like this out there just to stir up hornet's nests. Move along people, nothing to see here!

Lobo_Momma wrote:

soccer4ever wrote:Top 4 teams can beat each other on any given day.

1 / 2 DT Benet and DT North
3 / 4 Solar Ken and TBG
5. LP Dalglish
6. DT South
7. Texas Spirit North
8. Fever
9. Odyssey
10. LP Beardsley

Obviosuly, people put bizarre rankings like this out there just to stir up hornet's nests. Move along people, nothing to see here!

I guess it's "bizarre" since your team is not at the top?

Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

You bit!
Remember, soccer4ever is a fierce DT supporter and was caught defending the indefensible actions of that club in their shady 02 girls merging of teams. Anyone who called it as it was was instantly branded an "IDIOT" and "MORON" (soccer4ever's capitalization not mine).
My inclination is this person has a daughter on 04s and 02s. Now who did he/she put as joint #1 in the rankings? Couldn't be two DT teams could it?

Dalglish has a strong group of girls they gave our 03s a tough time. They were bigger and faster than the Solar Kenn 04 team we played. Unless it was a different Solar team Dalglish should be ranked above them.

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

I thought it was a fair ranking, considering Dalglish doesn't play in the 04 division. The top 4 teams are pretty evenly matched at this point. IMO, ranking Dalglish in the middle is only fair. Play with the 04's and win consistently, then they can move up.

Remember....this ranking is opinions.

The AFC tournament in a couple of weeks should help sort it all out

Lobo_Momma wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

You bit!
Remember, soccer4ever is a fierce DT supporter and was caught defending the indefensible actions of that club in their shady 02 girls merging of teams. Anyone who called it as it was was instantly branded an "IDIOT" and "MORON" (soccer4ever's capitalization not mine).
My inclination is this person has a daughter on 04s and 02s. Now who did he/she put as joint #1 in the rankings? Couldn't be two DT teams could it?

How dare anyone be a DT supporter! I forgot this board was only for Dalglish parents.

soccer4ever wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

I thought it was a fair ranking, considering Dalglish doesn't play in the 04 division. The top 4 teams are pretty evenly matched at this point. IMO, ranking Dalglish in the middle is only fair. Play with the 04's and win consistently, then they can move up.

Remember....this ranking is opinions.

You know they did play kennington twice. for a win and a tie. So maybe the Daglish ranking is fair but then move Kenn down.

go99 wrote:

soccer4ever wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Just s bit bizarre you would rank dalglish 5th! Most parents would at least admit they are top 3.

I thought it was a fair ranking, considering Dalglish doesn't play in the 04 division. The top 4 teams are pretty evenly matched at this point. IMO, ranking Dalglish in the middle is only fair. Play with the 04's and win consistently, then they can move up.

Remember....this ranking is opinions.

You know they did play kennington twice. for a win and a tie. So maybe the Daglish ranking is fair but then move Kenn down.

If we go that way then the rankings would be

DT North
DT Rowdies- Rowdies moves up with their win over TBG
TBD Elite- Moves down a spot due to their loss to Rowdies
LP Dalglish
Solar Kenn
etc....

If Solar & Dalglish are pretty evenly matched with a loss (during tourney) & tie during league play and Rowdies & DTN beating Solar this season. I would say Dalglish is pretty evenly matched with the top 3 teams and it could go either way and doesn't automatically #1 just because they play up in '03's. I think the top 3 could play up and have the same results Dalglish is having. All are good teams and could win or loss against each other any given day.

Hopefully the Dalglish girls will get to show they are worthy to y'all at the Aces Tournament. Just prayin my DD doesn't have to face them!

Master Bates wrote:Hopefully the Dalglish girls will get to show they are worthy to y'all at the Aces Tournament. Just prayin my DD doesn't have to face them!

No one is saying they are not worthy just don't assume they are #1 until they play other '04 teams to prove their worth. I say and will continue to say the top 5 teams can change any given day. They are all so closely matched it's not funny.

lovesoccer wrote:

Master Bates wrote:Hopefully the Dalglish girls will get to show they are worthy to y'all at the Aces Tournament. Just prayin my DD doesn't have to face them!

No one is saying they are not worthy just don't assume they are #1 until they play other '04 teams to prove their worth. I say and will continue to say the top 5 teams can change any given day. They are all so closely matched it's not funny.

Exactly...plus not all the 04 teams are playing in the Aces Tournament, so the debate will continue to go on...and on...and on.

The rankings are just going back and forth with opinions and speculation. It should all play out in the tournament. The kiddos will do their thing and it will probably be more clear in the end

Moosh98 wrote:The rankings are just going back and forth with opinions and speculation. It should all play out in the tournament. The kiddos will do their thing and it will probably be more clear in the end

Opinions are correct. Most of it will play out in the tournament, will Solar 04 be playing?

soccer4ever wrote:

Moosh98 wrote:The rankings are just going back and forth with opinions and speculation. It should all play out in the tournament. The kiddos will do their thing and it will probably be more clear in the end

Opinions are correct. Most of it will play out in the tournament, will Solar 04 be playing?

What about DT Rowdies and DT North Rosales?

I am certainly no Liverpool fan.

Look I know some Dalglish parents can be annoying first hand, but drama aside I still have Dalglish #1. Anything in the top 3 is fair and reasonable until they play each other. Anything below 3 is just to stir up drama or to pretend your preferred team is higher.

Aces tourn might help clear things up depending on how it ends… or could blur the lines even further. We will just have to wait and see.

I think we can all agree, this 04 group is really solid as a whole and are doing great things for their age.

Well said Shelby! They may well blow-up during the Aces Tournament but it would be weird for anybody to think Dalglish are not top three. Would be interested to know why DTN and Solar are not playing Aces? I heard Rowdies players were going to play for Davis!