04 Girls - Week 4 Standings & Rankings

chriskesler35 wrote:

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

That's funny. Reminds me of a tournament where my dd's team was about to play for the championship. One of the dad's (a big dude) came storming toward me on the sideline, eyes bulging, veins in his neck about to explode and demanded, "are you ready?"....LOL I said, "I didn't know I was playing?"...seriously, though, we found over the years that those who had some athletic success of their own were much more likely to keep things in perspective...

chriskesler35 wrote:

2ddgotskillz wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:The rankings and slick talk about your DD team or other teams drives us to come back and read. Let me be REAL here with you. The more I read these thread the more it drives me to say this - Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours" -- YES. Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours AND plays on a better team than yours" -- YES.

Most of us are living our dreams through our DD. It’s just the competitive nature in most of us. I may or may not be the first to admit it.


Either you're in it for:

1.) Rec - DD plays to be active and stay somewhat in shape.

2.) Competitive - Same as #1 plus her friends are on the team and they win little more game than Rec.

3.) Academy/Select - Same as #1 & #2 plus winning and losing matters and most are playing to earn scholarships.


Im sure more can be added to these three.

For those who don’t understand and for those who will never get it:

If my DD has a desire to play college soccer and to "EARN" a scholarship, I will do everything to help out with her dream. It’s not going to happen by her sitting on her asset and not being pushed. Yes, you do get a bigger trophy in a sport where name recognition is bigger than you think. Best believe college coaches know your DD names and teams at an early age - BELIEVE THIS.

In a few years when you realized why your DD was passed up on that scholarship think back on this:

4.) My DD was left her in Rec until she was 10 yrs old.

5.) My DD was the best Competitive player on her Competitive team that won more games than Rec.

6.) My DD played academy/select, I didn’t push her, and the ship has passed her by.


This was not for anyone in particular but if it bothers you, then yes, it’s for you. Keep your DD in the (4, 5, 6) category above and there will be no expectations. Don’t dislike the messenger, dislike the game. It’s a dog eat dog world in academy/select.

My name is 4DaLuvoftheGM and I approve this message.

I approve this message also!

Hahahaha - ya'll got issues... kinda early to pin one thing on your child's future for a college education... apparently because I played football and not soccer I don't have that same drive to live vicariously through my own child. I just pray she enjoys it long enough to do her some good, physically or academically.

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

ChrisK... Its not that I'm trying to pin her future down, Im helping her flourish to attain it. Im sure if your DD was playing on a sub-par team YOU will be happy, right? Oh, I forgot as long as she is happy, having fun, and learning it drives home the point. "BS". It will eat you alive to see your DD team beat down week after week after week. Whats the point (fun) in that. Like I said, some will stay in the 4, 5, 6 category, thats fine. Pushing your kid is not for everyone. The numbers above are for parents to remember, NOT your kids...

Gunner9 wrote:

chriskesler35 wrote:

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

That's funny. Reminds me of a tournament where my dd's team was about to play for the championship. One of the dad's (a big dude) came storming toward me on the sideline, eyes bulging, veins in his neck about to explode and demanded, "are you ready?"....LOL I said, "I didn't know I was playing?"...seriously, though, we found over the years that those who had some athletic success of their own were much more likely to keep things in perspective...

Nailed it on the head...I have a feeling if the dads had to play a game in front of their daughters it would shut most of them up!

I don't understand the great liverpool conspiracy. I just can't see what they have to gain. Manipulate the ranking? For what? They are parental created on an annonymous message board. The rankings don't actually count for squat and it is supposed to ba all a little mindless fun. You can feel the hatred of LP from homie and it's just sad. I will say I have seen a parent go to LW with relative in out of town and game conflicts. They asked and he did find them a team to play on that day. so what, seems to be in the girl and parents best interest. There is clearly a personally issue between homie and LP that we are all not privey too. If you will tell us what team you are for I am sure many of us would rank them #1 just so you will be quiet.

chriskesler35 wrote:

2ddgotskillz wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:The rankings and slick talk about your DD team or other teams drives us to come back and read. Let me be REAL here with you. The more I read these thread the more it drives me to say this - Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours" -- YES. Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours AND plays on a better team than yours" -- YES.

Most of us are living our dreams through our DD. It’s just the competitive nature in most of us. I may or may not be the first to admit it.


Either you're in it for:

1.) Rec - DD plays to be active and stay somewhat in shape.

2.) Competitive - Same as #1 plus her friends are on the team and they win little more game than Rec.

3.) Academy/Select - Same as #1 & #2 plus winning and losing matters and most are playing to earn scholarships.


Im sure more can be added to these three.

For those who don’t understand and for those who will never get it:

If my DD has a desire to play college soccer and to "EARN" a scholarship, I will do everything to help out with her dream. It’s not going to happen by her sitting on her asset and not being pushed. Yes, you do get a bigger trophy in a sport where name recognition is bigger than you think. Best believe college coaches know your DD names and teams at an early age - BELIEVE THIS.

In a few years when you realized why your DD was passed up on that scholarship think back on this:

4.) My DD was left her in Rec until she was 10 yrs old.

5.) My DD was the best Competitive player on her Competitive team that won more games than Rec.

6.) My DD played academy/select, I didn’t push her, and the ship has passed her by.


This was not for anyone in particular but if it bothers you, then yes, it’s for you. Keep your DD in the (4, 5, 6) category above and there will be no expectations. Don’t dislike the messenger, dislike the game. It’s a dog eat dog world in academy/select.

My name is 4DaLuvoftheGM and I approve this message.

I approve this message also!

Hahahaha - ya'll got issues... kinda early to pin one thing on your child's future for a college education... apparently because I played football and not soccer I don't have that same drive to live vicariously through my own child. I just pray she enjoys it long enough to do her some good, physically or academically.

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

I think you need to find a lower level of soccer to put your daughter into.
There are three levels:
1-Basic rec in your hometown
2-Rec teams that stay together and practice regularly with good coaching. Usually play at PSA or somewhere similiar.
3-Academy soccer
If you daughter doesn't have a desire to win, she has no business playing academy soccer. As a parent, it's your job to find the right level for her. It doesn't make sense to put her into the most competitive level and then complain about it being too competitive.
If your daughter switches to tennis, are you going to complain about their ranking system? If your son plays football, do you complain to the rest of the league because they are keeping score?
Just because parents practice with their kid and put them on a competitive team doesn't mean they want to live through them. Many of us have already played sports in college and want to give our kids the same opportunities if they want it. Other parents grew up with no opportunities and want better for their kids. I stay on my kids about their grades so that they stay at the top of their class. Does that mean I am living through them? That statement is usually a copout for the parents that like to drop their kids off practice and hit the liquor store.
As far rankings, get over it. Kids don't see them. If it bothers you so much, it's really just about your ego. FC Extreme is not ranked so I guess it bothers you.
And for the record, if your daughter is in it, you are in it. Like it or not.
You can choose to be an uninvolved parent if you like, but coaches are only concerned about the team, not your duaghters personal development. You can drink the koolaid if you want, but it's up to you to make sure your DD is developing.

footballfanatic wrote:

chriskesler35 wrote:

2ddgotskillz wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:The rankings and slick talk about your DD team or other teams drives us to come back and read. Let me be REAL here with you. The more I read these thread the more it drives me to say this - Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours" -- YES. Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours AND plays on a better team than yours" -- YES.

Most of us are living our dreams through our DD. It’s just the competitive nature in most of us. I may or may not be the first to admit it.


Either you're in it for:

1.) Rec - DD plays to be active and stay somewhat in shape.

2.) Competitive - Same as #1 plus her friends are on the team and they win little more game than Rec.

3.) Academy/Select - Same as #1 & #2 plus winning and losing matters and most are playing to earn scholarships.


Im sure more can be added to these three.

For those who don’t understand and for those who will never get it:

If my DD has a desire to play college soccer and to "EARN" a scholarship, I will do everything to help out with her dream. It’s not going to happen by her sitting on her asset and not being pushed. Yes, you do get a bigger trophy in a sport where name recognition is bigger than you think. Best believe college coaches know your DD names and teams at an early age - BELIEVE THIS.

In a few years when you realized why your DD was passed up on that scholarship think back on this:

4.) My DD was left her in Rec until she was 10 yrs old.

5.) My DD was the best Competitive player on her Competitive team that won more games than Rec.

6.) My DD played academy/select, I didn’t push her, and the ship has passed her by.


This was not for anyone in particular but if it bothers you, then yes, it’s for you. Keep your DD in the (4, 5, 6) category above and there will be no expectations. Don’t dislike the messenger, dislike the game. It’s a dog eat dog world in academy/select.

My name is 4DaLuvoftheGM and I approve this message.

I approve this message also!

Hahahaha - ya'll got issues... kinda early to pin one thing on your child's future for a college education... apparently because I played football and not soccer I don't have that same drive to live vicariously through my own child. I just pray she enjoys it long enough to do her some good, physically or academically.

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

I think you need to find a lower level of soccer to put your daughter into.
There are three levels:
1-Basic rec in your hometown
2-Rec teams that stay together and practice regularly with good coaching. Usually play at PSA or somewhere similiar.
3-Academy soccer
If you daughter doesn't have a desire to win, she has no business playing academy soccer. As a parent, it's your job to find the right level for her. It doesn't make sense to put her into the most competitive level and then complain about it being too competitive.
If your daughter switches to tennis, are you going to complain about their ranking system? If your son plays football, do you complain to the rest of the league because they are keeping score?
Just because parents practice with their kid and put them on a competitive team doesn't mean they want to live through them. Many of us have already played sports in college and want to give our kids the same opportunities if they want it. Other parents grew up with no opportunities and want better for their kids. I stay on my kids about their grades so that they stay at the top of their class. Does that mean I am living through them? That statement is usually a copout for the parents that like to drop their kids off practice and hit the liquor store.
As far rankings, get over it. Kids don't see them. If it bothers you so much, it's really just about your ego. FC Extreme is not ranked so I guess it bothers you.
And for the record, if your daughter is in it, you are in it. Like it or not.
You can choose to be an uninvolved parent if you like, but coaches are only concerned about the team, not your duaghters personal development. You can drink the koolaid if you want, but it's up to you to make sure your DD is developing.

Well put!!! And 4DaLuvoftheGM also approve this message!!

a little mindless fun

Yup, what he said. And I hope FS05 will continue to provide it--if some of you quiet ones out there (we know you are there) would also like to continue the mindless fun a post here and there might help FS05 remember why he volunteered to do this in the first place

The rankings are for fun. People enjoy them for different reasons obviously and yes, some people take it too seriously.

At the end of the day, all rankings threads are CLEARLY marked. This means if you don’t enjoy this, or think it’s ridiculous, or it confuses you are gives you the heebie jeebies, you can easily avoid it by NOT READING OR COMMENTING on these threads.


Have a nice day.

Wow 6 pages. I think it's time for Xanax & beer before anyone else is allowed to post

footballfanatic wrote:

chriskesler35 wrote:

2ddgotskillz wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:The rankings and slick talk about your DD team or other teams drives us to come back and read. Let me be REAL here with you. The more I read these thread the more it drives me to say this - Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours" -- YES. Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours AND plays on a better team than yours" -- YES.

Most of us are living our dreams through our DD. It’s just the competitive nature in most of us. I may or may not be the first to admit it.


Either you're in it for:

1.) Rec - DD plays to be active and stay somewhat in shape.

2.) Competitive - Same as #1 plus her friends are on the team and they win little more game than Rec.

3.) Academy/Select - Same as #1 & #2 plus winning and losing matters and most are playing to earn scholarships.


Im sure more can be added to these three.

For those who don’t understand and for those who will never get it:

If my DD has a desire to play college soccer and to "EARN" a scholarship, I will do everything to help out with her dream. It’s not going to happen by her sitting on her asset and not being pushed. Yes, you do get a bigger trophy in a sport where name recognition is bigger than you think. Best believe college coaches know your DD names and teams at an early age - BELIEVE THIS.

In a few years when you realized why your DD was passed up on that scholarship think back on this:

4.) My DD was left her in Rec until she was 10 yrs old.

5.) My DD was the best Competitive player on her Competitive team that won more games than Rec.

6.) My DD played academy/select, I didn’t push her, and the ship has passed her by.


This was not for anyone in particular but if it bothers you, then yes, it’s for you. Keep your DD in the (4, 5, 6) category above and there will be no expectations. Don’t dislike the messenger, dislike the game. It’s a dog eat dog world in academy/select.

My name is 4DaLuvoftheGM and I approve this message.

I approve this message also!

Hahahaha - ya'll got issues... kinda early to pin one thing on your child's future for a college education... apparently because I played football and not soccer I don't have that same drive to live vicariously through my own child. I just pray she enjoys it long enough to do her some good, physically or academically.

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

I think you need to find a lower level of soccer to put your daughter into.
There are three levels:
1-Basic rec in your hometown
2-Rec teams that stay together and practice regularly with good coaching. Usually play at PSA or somewhere similiar.
3-Academy soccer
If you daughter doesn't have a desire to win, she has no business playing academy soccer. As a parent, it's your job to find the right level for her. It doesn't make sense to put her into the most competitive level and then complain about it being too competitive.
If your daughter switches to tennis, are you going to complain about their ranking system? If your son plays football, do you complain to the rest of the league because they are keeping score?
Just because parents practice with their kid and put them on a competitive team doesn't mean they want to live through them. Many of us have already played sports in college and want to give our kids the same opportunities if they want it. Other parents grew up with no opportunities and want better for their kids. I stay on my kids about their grades so that they stay at the top of their class. Does that mean I am living through them? That statement is usually a copout for the parents that like to drop their kids off practice and hit the liquor store.
As far rankings, get over it. Kids don't see them. If it bothers you so much, it's really just about your ego. FC Extreme is not ranked so I guess it bothers you.
And for the record, if your daughter is in it, you are in it. Like it or not.
You can choose to be an uninvolved parent if you like, but coaches are only concerned about the team, not your duaghters personal development. You can drink the koolaid if you want, but it's up to you to make sure your DD is developing.

I'm going to "actually" partially agree with you on some points here... If the kiddo doesn't have a desire to win they have no business playing academy or club ball - that I completely agree with on all levels, no matter what the sport. BUT, it stops there... This is about her, not me and when I inject my own personal feelings about teams that are comprised of 7 and 8 year old "children" and speaking in terms like they're more than that, it gets kinda absurd to me... Someone posted a little bit ago saying something about "for fun" - doesn't "for fun" go away once we start making statements to do nothing more demean the person we're addressing? - i.e. " If it bothers you so much, it's really just about your ego. FC Extreme is not ranked so I guess it bothers you." That was your statement, not mine and was it even necessary? I personally don't even get this ranking system so it really means nothing to me. I'm just trying to make sense of all the craziness I keep reading on this forum. I was interested because of the statement made in the beginning that this was "for fun" but seems a large number of the posts aren't taking it as fun at all... So I questioned the thought process behind WHY this is so serious and it, once again, seemed a little over the top for a group of "children" that are just learning the game and learning to love it and BE competitive at the same time... All this while learning and adhering to being a good sportsman - shaking hands, saying good game regardless of the score, helping a player up that was knocked down, stuff like that. I'm in it, yes, I'm in it as far as encouragement for my daughter to learn, I'm in it financially cause that's where all the team goodies come from, but at the end of the day, if someday down the road this isn't for her anymore, then I'm glad I'm investing in her future financially for college regardless of scholarships cause that's NOT why I'm in it nor is it why she's in it. At the end of the day, SDL or any other developmental league is about our kids learning to have a passion for something, and that would be true no matter what the sport. The day it becomes ultra competitive will come soon enough - just few short years away - it can be "fun" now while they learn these nifty things can't it? I'm sure some of you die hard, hard core folks will hammer me for this and that's fine but I'm honestly just kinda blown away by what I'm reading out here...

melamamas wrote:Wow 6 pages. I think it's time for Xanax & beer before anyone else is allowed to post

XANAX on board, now for a nifty Scotch chaser... LOL

chriskesler35 wrote:

melamamas wrote:Wow 6 pages. I think it's time for Xanax & beer before anyone else is allowed to post

XANAX on board, now for a nifty Scotch chaser... LOL

It makes reading these post a bit funny.
...mine Is bigger then yours...no mine is...
Lol

XANAX on board, now for a nifty Scotch chaser... LOL

I don't have either and my box of wine is empty.

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:

chriskesler35 wrote:

2ddgotskillz wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:The rankings and slick talk about your DD team or other teams drives us to come back and read. Let me be REAL here with you. The more I read these thread the more it drives me to say this - Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours" -- YES. Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours AND plays on a better team than yours" -- YES.

Most of us are living our dreams through our DD. It’s just the competitive nature in most of us. I may or may not be the first to admit it.


Either you're in it for:

1.) Rec - DD plays to be active and stay somewhat in shape.

2.) Competitive - Same as #1 plus her friends are on the team and they win little more game than Rec.

3.) Academy/Select - Same as #1 & #2 plus winning and losing matters and most are playing to earn scholarships.


Im sure more can be added to these three.

For those who don’t understand and for those who will never get it:

If my DD has a desire to play college soccer and to "EARN" a scholarship, I will do everything to help out with her dream. It’s not going to happen by her sitting on her asset and not being pushed. Yes, you do get a bigger trophy in a sport where name recognition is bigger than you think. Best believe college coaches know your DD names and teams at an early age - BELIEVE THIS.

In a few years when you realized why your DD was passed up on that scholarship think back on this:

4.) My DD was left her in Rec until she was 10 yrs old.

5.) My DD was the best Competitive player on her Competitive team that won more games than Rec.

6.) My DD played academy/select, I didn’t push her, and the ship has passed her by.


This was not for anyone in particular but if it bothers you, then yes, it’s for you. Keep your DD in the (4, 5, 6) category above and there will be no expectations. Don’t dislike the messenger, dislike the game. It’s a dog eat dog world in academy/select.

My name is 4DaLuvoftheGM and I approve this message.

I approve this message also!

Hahahaha - ya'll got issues... kinda early to pin one thing on your child's future for a college education... apparently because I played football and not soccer I don't have that same drive to live vicariously through my own child. I just pray she enjoys it long enough to do her some good, physically or academically.

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

ChrisK... Its not that I'm trying to pin her future down, Im helping her flourish to attain it. Im sure if your DD was playing on a sub-par team YOU will be happy, right? Oh, I forgot as long as she is happy, having fun, and learning it drives home the point. "BS". It will eat you alive to see your DD team beat down week after week after week. Whats the point (fun) in that. Like I said, some will stay in the 4, 5, 6 category, thats fine. Pushing your kid is not for everyone. The numbers above are for parents to remember, NOT your kids...

OK, you read me like a book, I'll concede although the kool-aid doesn't taste nearly as good as I thought it would - j/k...

After everyone takes a pill and a swig or two....how 'bout it, group hug? C'mon you know you want to.

The day it becomes ultra competitive will come soon enough - just few short years away - it can be "fun" now while they learn these nifty things can't it? I'm sure some of you die hard, hard core folks will hammer me for this and that's fine but I'm honestly just kinda blown away by what I'm reading out here...

Its already ultra competitive at the '04 level as well as the '05 level. If your in shock and your heart is weak, I suggest you invest in a defibulator beacause it gets worst. Man, open your . Prep your DD about what's ahead. Best sooner than later. Like a post above said, If academy is tough for her now, you have to help her find that sweet spot. Play her down if you have too. Get her extra lessons. Play her on multiple teams (Rec team). This all helps. Seriously, good luck.

Have you heard about the new and upcoming club that is importing 04's from Brazil to be ranked number 1

chriskesler35 wrote:

footballfanatic wrote:

chriskesler35 wrote:

2ddgotskillz wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:The rankings and slick talk about your DD team or other teams drives us to come back and read. Let me be REAL here with you. The more I read these thread the more it drives me to say this - Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours" -- YES. Is it something inside of me that says "My daughter is better than yours AND plays on a better team than yours" -- YES.

Most of us are living our dreams through our DD. It’s just the competitive nature in most of us. I may or may not be the first to admit it.


Either you're in it for:

1.) Rec - DD plays to be active and stay somewhat in shape.

2.) Competitive - Same as #1 plus her friends are on the team and they win little more game than Rec.

3.) Academy/Select - Same as #1 & #2 plus winning and losing matters and most are playing to earn scholarships.


Im sure more can be added to these three.

For those who don’t understand and for those who will never get it:

If my DD has a desire to play college soccer and to "EARN" a scholarship, I will do everything to help out with her dream. It’s not going to happen by her sitting on her asset and not being pushed. Yes, you do get a bigger trophy in a sport where name recognition is bigger than you think. Best believe college coaches know your DD names and teams at an early age - BELIEVE THIS.

In a few years when you realized why your DD was passed up on that scholarship think back on this:

4.) My DD was left her in Rec until she was 10 yrs old.

5.) My DD was the best Competitive player on her Competitive team that won more games than Rec.

6.) My DD played academy/select, I didn’t push her, and the ship has passed her by.


This was not for anyone in particular but if it bothers you, then yes, it’s for you. Keep your DD in the (4, 5, 6) category above and there will be no expectations. Don’t dislike the messenger, dislike the game. It’s a dog eat dog world in academy/select.

My name is 4DaLuvoftheGM and I approve this message.

I approve this message also!

Hahahaha - ya'll got issues... kinda early to pin one thing on your child's future for a college education... apparently because I played football and not soccer I don't have that same drive to live vicariously through my own child. I just pray she enjoys it long enough to do her some good, physically or academically.

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

I think you need to find a lower level of soccer to put your daughter into.
There are three levels:
1-Basic rec in your hometown
2-Rec teams that stay together and practice regularly with good coaching. Usually play at PSA or somewhere similiar.
3-Academy soccer
If you daughter doesn't have a desire to win, she has no business playing academy soccer. As a parent, it's your job to find the right level for her. It doesn't make sense to put her into the most competitive level and then complain about it being too competitive.
If your daughter switches to tennis, are you going to complain about their ranking system? If your son plays football, do you complain to the rest of the league because they are keeping score?
Just because parents practice with their kid and put them on a competitive team doesn't mean they want to live through them. Many of us have already played sports in college and want to give our kids the same opportunities if they want it. Other parents grew up with no opportunities and want better for their kids. I stay on my kids about their grades so that they stay at the top of their class. Does that mean I am living through them? That statement is usually a copout for the parents that like to drop their kids off practice and hit the liquor store.
As far rankings, get over it. Kids don't see them. If it bothers you so much, it's really just about your ego. FC Extreme is not ranked so I guess it bothers you.
And for the record, if your daughter is in it, you are in it. Like it or not.
You can choose to be an uninvolved parent if you like, but coaches are only concerned about the team, not your duaghters personal development. You can drink the koolaid if you want, but it's up to you to make sure your DD is developing.

I'm going to "actually" partially agree with you on some points here... If the kiddo doesn't have a desire to win they have no business playing academy or club ball - that I completely agree with on all levels, no matter what the sport. BUT, it stops there... This is about her, not me and when I inject my own personal feelings about teams that are comprised of 7 and 8 year old "children" and speaking in terms like they're more than that, it gets kinda absurd to me... Someone posted a little bit ago saying something about "for fun" - doesn't "for fun" go away once we start making statements to do nothing more demean the person we're addressing? - i.e. " If it bothers you so much, it's really just about your ego. FC Extreme is not ranked so I guess it bothers you." That was your statement, not mine and was it even necessary? I personally don't even get this ranking system so it really means nothing to me. I'm just trying to make sense of all the craziness I keep reading on this forum. I was interested because of the statement made in the beginning that this was "for fun" but seems a large number of the posts aren't taking it as fun at all... So I questioned the thought process behind WHY this is so serious and it, once again, seemed a little over the top for a group of "children" that are just learning the game and learning to love it and BE competitive at the same time... All this while learning and adhering to being a good sportsman - shaking hands, saying good game regardless of the score, helping a player up that was knocked down, stuff like that. I'm in it, yes, I'm in it as far as encouragement for my daughter to learn, I'm in it financially cause that's where all the team goodies come from, but at the end of the day, if someday down the road this isn't for her anymore, then I'm glad I'm investing in her future financially for college regardless of scholarships cause that's NOT why I'm in it nor is it why she's in it. At the end of the day, SDL or any other developmental league is about our kids learning to have a passion for something, and that would be true no matter what the sport. The day it becomes ultra competitive will come soon enough - just few short years away - it can be "fun" now while they learn these nifty things can't it? I'm sure some of you die hard, hard core folks will hammer me for this and that's fine but I'm honestly just kinda blown away by what I'm reading out here...

I think maybe your assuming that girls don't have fun in a competitive environment. I disagree. Watch any of the top teams, especially the SRSA 03 super team. You will see lots of smiles, high fives, laughing, etc. The only time I have seen girls not having fun at soccer games were on my daughters rec team. In one season alone, there were three girls who didn't want to go into the game. Their parents made them play because they were overweight, etc.
I saw way more pressure from rec parents than I see on my daughters academy team.
Now, if you daughters team is losing 10 to 0 every weeekend, that can definitely become discouraging but that is when your coach needs to play them at the right level.

melamamas wrote:Have you heard about the new and upcoming club that is importing 04's from Brazil to be ranked number 1

HAHAHAHA... are starting another fire?

Ok, I don't care, I just want to see if we can get this thread to page 10, C'MON we can do it!

I don't have an 04 so I'll give an unbiased opinion and honestly I only know the top 5 teams and they seem to be properly ranked. I commend Friscosoccer05 for the work he's done on these rankings. My only problem lies in the League Factor values...and those of you crying about a LP conspiracy...well here's your best argument:
EAL03 Silver league factor is way too high.....
RASE will breeze thru relatively unscathed.
That wouldn't be the case in SDL03
Where they'd have to play teams like
Fever Black 03 (pack a lunch) and FWFC 03
And even JUve 03 Black.
SDL03 should have a higher league factor than
EAL03 silver....and for EAL04 to be considered tougher than SDL03
, please! You can't be serious. Those scores have been more lopsided than the NCAA
1 vs 16 matchups you'll see thur and fri.
But you can't blame friscosoccer05....the people voted on the difficulty of these leagues...And the people got it wrong
They just need some adjusting ...that's all I'm saying.
One final point look out for those two 04 teams playing DIAL03, ranked 14 and 16
They will be in the mix b4 long. They're nasty.

Those 2 04's in dial are also playing very weak 03' teams

melamamas wrote:Those 2 04's in dial are also playing very weak 03' teams

No argument there...that's why the league value factor is so low.
Those teams will have to rely on tournament wins to climb the polls.

Alrite...its only Week 4! Time to move on and carry this convo on whenever week 5 is unveiled. How about another topic or two that not many are passionate about..

Religion?

Politics?

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:

The day it becomes ultra competitive will come soon enough - just few short years away - it can be "fun" now while they learn these nifty things can't it? I'm sure some of you die hard, hard core folks will hammer me for this and that's fine but I'm honestly just kinda blown away by what I'm reading out here...

Its already ultra competitive at the '04 level as well as the '05 level. If your in shock and your heart is weak, I suggest you invest in a defibulator beacause it gets worst. Man, open your . Prep your DD about what's ahead. Best sooner than later. Like a post above said, If academy is tough for her now, you have to help her find that sweet spot. Play her down if you have too. Get her extra lessons. Play her on multiple teams (Rec team). This all helps. Seriously, good luck.

My DD is just fine, this isn't too much for her... seems to be the parents, more than anything, I'm concerned about... My statements on here have absolutely nothing to do with my DD and HER ability to play what-so-ever - it's about the level the parents seem to take it to on this forum which is far beyond what I had imagined. DD is great, loves her team, loves her coaches, loves her teammates, loves the competition even enjoys outplaying people to a point that we are teaching her good sportsmanship. So it has nothing to do with her - I'm the one perplexed - since you posted this I went out and bought two defibrillators just cause I fear I'll need them - also doubled up my XANAX prescription, figured that ought to ease me into this crazy world of Club soccer... Sometimes wish she didn't love it as much as she does but I'm along for the ride so I'll stock up on my medical supplies while I can...

Gunner9 wrote:

chriskesler35 wrote:

Oh, and for the record, I'm NOT in it, my daughter is and she's in it cause right now she enjoys it and thinks she's pretty good at it, and that's her, not me... the only stake I have in this claim is getting her to practices and games because she has a love for the game. So I'M not in it, she is and she enjoys it for now and I doubt she's thinking about any of those numbers you listed above...

That's funny. Reminds me of a tournament where my dd's team was about to play for the championship. One of the dad's (a big dude) came storming toward me on the sideline, eyes bulging, veins in his neck about to explode and demanded, "are you ready?"....LOL I said, "I didn't know I was playing?"...seriously, though, we found over the years that those who had some athletic success of their own were much more likely to keep things in perspective...

Sporting success is questionable but mating success... Yeah baby!