Solar Coaches Not Being Paid??

Well lets take a poll. With new players that are looking to join & players already joined tis season. What is the percentage of players joining the new season?

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

totalsoccer wrote:

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

sorry, andromeda, yaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnn

totalsoccer wrote:

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

Look closely you will see that was not written by me. At any rate Silent Parent has it exactly right (except for one initial,) This has all the makings of an Andromeda sized disaster! Too much money tied up in the facility, inability to pay the coaches, loans coming any time now... Exactly the same.

texflats, you are correct.

texflats wrote:

totalsoccer wrote:

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

Look closely you will see that was not written by me. At any rate Silent Parent has it exactly right (except for one initial,) This has all the makings of an Andromeda sized disaster! Too much money tied up in the facility, inability to pay the coaches, loans coming any time now... Exactly the same.

call me old fashioned but i wait to buy something after the money is in the bank, but hey that's just me

silentparent wrote:

texflats wrote:

totalsoccer wrote:

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

Look closely you will see that was not written by me. At any rate Silent Parent has it exactly right (except for one initial,) This has all the makings of an Andromeda sized disaster! Too much money tied up in the facility, inability to pay the coaches, loans coming any time now... Exactly the same.

call me old fashioned but i wait to buy something after the money is in the bank, but hey that's just me

No credit card for you?

oldboot wrote:

silentparent wrote:

texflats wrote:

totalsoccer wrote:

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

Look closely you will see that was not written by me. At any rate Silent Parent has it exactly right (except for one initial,) This has all the makings of an Andromeda sized disaster! Too much money tied up in the facility, inability to pay the coaches, loans coming any time now... Exactly the same.

call me old fashioned but i wait to buy something after the money is in the bank, but hey that's just me

No credit card for you?

Not when i am buying a facility...

silentparent wrote:

oldboot wrote:

silentparent wrote:

texflats wrote:

totalsoccer wrote:

texflats wrote:

silentparent wrote:
Hmm, I think I saw this movie before, what was it called? Think, think yes I recall It now......ANDROMEDA FC.

Exactly

Wrong, Texflat Andromeda FC was not in existence at that time!

Look closely you will see that was not written by me. At any rate Silent Parent has it exactly right (except for one initial,) This has all the makings of an Andromeda sized disaster! Too much money tied up in the facility, inability to pay the coaches, loans coming any time now... Exactly the same.

call me old fashioned but i wait to buy something after the money is in the bank, but hey that's just me

No credit card for you?

Not when i am buying a facility...

I buy dirt and grass seed with my credit card several times a year. Maybe Solar could ask every player in the club to bring a bag of dirt and a flat of grass plugs to practice. Problem solved.

Oldboot, that sounds like you are "grass"ping at straws on that one.

InaB wrote:Oldboot, that sounds like you are "grass"ping at straws on that one.

Oh, let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill - my credit limit isn't that high . . .

intheknow wrote:
I've told you all I know. I dont know if it was a pure donation or maybe an investment of cash to buy the property. I dont think it was a loan. Either way, the cash didnt arrive as repeatedly promised. The assurances continue that it is forthcoming.

I suspect the Solar leaders are as frustrated as the coaches. It is unfortunate for a club that has worked hard to stay afloat after what happened. Remember, they made payroll last season--the first year after the embezzlement. The shortage here appears to be entirely because promises made to Solar were not kept.

Thats really all I know. I'm only kind of intheknow. I just thought someone should defend some good people/volunteers who are doing the best they can.

will you be changing your alias?

Meow.

I agree with most on here that this issue is very disturbing in virtually every aspect.

In any business world, theft charges would have already been filed & certainly the employees would not still be working. Yet they do as I suspect they have an obligation to their players (customers). Each Solar coach should be commended for sticking around on such bs.

Keep in mind that this is the same club which secured monies from players/parents for several years to 'purchase' land for the fields. So, where are these funds?

Some interesting questions: Why is the current president (which succeeded the infamous David Ringer) still running the club? Is he the genius to 'spend what I don’t have'? How is it retaining its 501c3 status?

Further, land on 121. How does this help Solar as a whole? Do they expect all teams to travel to never never land to train, or only a few get to use the 'field of dreams' which everyone is paying for?

Clearly, this organization has a core group; coaches & players which rival other clubs. Yet the group running this organization is completely immune to the continued devastation from these ill-advised, ethically challenged; short-term & long-term. I would say it is time to call for resignations.

smbush wrote:I agree with most on here that this issue is very disturbing in virtually every aspect.

In any business world, theft charges would have already been filed & certainly the employees would not still be working. Yet they do as I suspect they have an obligation to their players (customers). Each Solar coach should be commended for sticking around on such bs.

Keep in mind that this is the same club which secured monies from players/parents for several years to 'purchase' land for the fields. So, where are these funds?

Some interesting questions: Why is the current president (which succeeded the infamous David Ringer) still running the club? Is he the genius to 'spend what I don’t have'? How is it retaining its 501c3 status?

Further, land on 121. How does this help Solar as a whole? Do they expect all teams to travel to never never land to train, or only a few get to use the 'field of dreams' which everyone is paying for?

Clearly, this organization has a core group; coaches & players which rival other clubs. Yet the group running this organization is completely immune to the continued devastation from these ill-advised, ethically challenged; short-term & long-term. I would say it is time to call for resignations.

I'm no apologist for the Solar organization, but your comment shows great ignorance.

If I were going to build a soccer complex today, 121 is clearly one of the most desirable arteries on which to do so. The cities of Southlake, Carrolton, Frisco, Plano, Allen, and McKinney are all within minutes of anywhere on 121. If the Dallas North Tollway is the Golden Corridor of commercial real estate, then SH-121 is the golden corridor of youth soccer. And Solar is originally a Plano-based club, so it makes perfect sense.

And this is why 'you' are not building a soccer complex but it sounds as if you would fit right in with the decision making skills of this group.

Whether a club originated in one area or not is completely irrelevent; its where they are headed. Take alook at the Texans; they originated in Dallas yet they have expanded well beyond that opportunity area. But using your intellegence, they should acquire/build fields in Dallas & expect Houston, Austin, etc. to train in Dallas. My apologies; this makes perfect sense.

smbush wrote:And this is why 'you' are not building a soccer complex but it sounds as if you would fit right in with the decision making skills of this group.

Whether a club originated in one area or not is completely irrelevent; its where they are headed. Take alook at the Texans; they originated in Dallas yet they have expanded well beyond that opportunity area. But using your intellegence, they should acquire/build fields in Dallas & expect Houston, Austin, etc. to train in Dallas. My apologies; this makes perfect sense.

Lawnboy wrote:If I were going to build a soccer complex today, 121 is clearly one of the most desirable arteries on which to do so. The cities of Southlake, Carrolton, Frisco, Plano, Allen, and McKinney are all within minutes of anywhere on 121.

Well, maybe not anywhere.....

smbush wrote:And this is why 'you' are not building a soccer complex but it sounds as if you would fit right in with the decision making skills of this group.

Whether a club originated in one area or not is completely irrelevent; its where they are headed. Take alook at the Texans; they originated in Dallas yet they have expanded well beyond that opportunity area. But using your intellegence, they should acquire/build fields in Dallas & expect Houston, Austin, etc. to train in Dallas. My apologies; this makes perfect sense.

This post should win some sort of award.....

smbush wrote:And this is why 'you' are not building a soccer complex but it sounds as if you would fit right in with the decision making skills of this group.

Whether a club originated in one area or not is completely irrelevent; its where they are headed. Take alook at the Texans; they originated in Dallas yet they have expanded well beyond that opportunity area. But using your intellegence, they should acquire/build fields in Dallas & expect Houston, Austin, etc. to train in Dallas. My apologies; this makes perfect sense.

So where would you put your soccer complex?

I can't wait to hear your logic of locating a soccer complex.

Lefty wrote:

smbush wrote:And this is why 'you' are not building a soccer complex but it sounds as if you would fit right in with the decision making skills of this group.

Whether a club originated in one area or not is completely irrelevent; its where they are headed. Take alook at the Texans; they originated in Dallas yet they have expanded well beyond that opportunity area. But using your intellegence, they should acquire/build fields in Dallas & expect Houston, Austin, etc. to train in Dallas. My apologies; this makes perfect sense.

So where would you put your soccer complex?

Wherever with most free coaches and rich soccer parents.

butt3r wrote:

Lawnboy wrote:If I were going to build a soccer complex today, 121 is clearly one of the most desirable arteries on which to do so. The cities of Southlake, Carrolton, Frisco, Plano, Allen, and McKinney are all within minutes of anywhere on 121.

Well, maybe not anywhere.....

Thus proving the exception to the rule.

butt3r wrote:

Lawnboy wrote:If I were going to build a soccer complex today, 121 is clearly one of the most desirable arteries on which to do so. The cities of Southlake, Carrolton, Frisco, Plano, Allen, and McKinney are all within minutes of anywhere on 121.

Well, maybe not anywhere.....

Betcha Solar could get some land in Bonham for cheap and still be able to pay the coaches!

smbush wrote:And this is why 'you' are not building a soccer complex but it sounds as if you would fit right in with the decision making skills of this group.

Whether a club originated in one area or not is completely irrelevent; its where they are headed. Take alook at the Texans; they originated in Dallas yet they have expanded well beyond that opportunity area. But using your intellegence, they should acquire/build fields in Dallas & expect Houston, Austin, etc. to train in Dallas. My apologies; this makes perfect sense.

Using Texans as an example are you aware that most of the Texans teams do NOT practice at Ross Stewart? There are many DT North teams that practice at Carpenter park or other area fields. This is also the same for the DT South and those to the East & West of DFW. They don't drive all the way into Farmers Branch to run practice. Actually those teams don't have access to that training facility but the parents sure do pay for it.

Why can't Solar have their own complex? Is it not centrally located? Well your never going to be centrally located for every single team. Is every parent going to want to drive to that complex? No! That is just the way of life. If you don't like the practice location then look for a new team. Seeing as this is a free market and as the parent and payee you have the choice as to where and what team your dd plays for. There problem solved.

Its an analogy lovesoccer......moron

As I've mentioned before, what still blows my mind in all of this is how much parents will pay for nothing more than a club name and rented fields. You've got many hundreds of parents shelling out $2500 - $2800 a year at places like Solar and Andromeda, but where is the money going? If it is being saved for a future facility, then your child is not getting what you are currently paying for. And for that matter, we've all seen how well such clubs do when it comes to saving money, right?

The smart action is to pay as little as possible for the best coaching one can get for the money. If the club you choose actually owns its own facility (such as Sting and Texans) or rents a really great facility (FC Dallas), you will understandably pay more. But if the club is charging facility-owned rates and your team is practicing on any spot of grass they can find, you're probably not getting your money's worth if the dues are over around $1500 a year. It's simple math.