Re: Referees

by Guest 04/09/14, 11:31 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJOWe02uBIw&t=1m13s

It's a Texican's creed Very Happy

by soccerchicken 04/09/14, 11:31 am

twotone wrote:
silentparent wrote:this isnt mexico, its north texas and EVERY ref should speak english...

Well, the tournament could uninvite the guest refs from Mexico and leave them there. They could also decline the refs that can't speak English here from North Texas. Of course, then there wouldnt be enough refs for all the games and they'd have to decline teams from playing in the PLD. maybe one of those teams would be your team so you'd be searching for another tournament to play in after you get declined. So you'd apply for another (read:lesser) tournament across town or out of town. All the "good" English speaking refs would be working PLD because that's the premier tournament around town. Your team, after getting declined from PLD cuz there aren't enough refs, would be in another tournament with all the non-English speaking refs that got declined from PLD also. So you'd still end up with the same ole refs that couldn't communicate. Damn shame....

Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

by Guest 04/09/14, 11:57 am

Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...

by twotone 04/09/14, 12:01 pm

with the amount of piss and vinegar some parents spew from the sidelines during a game, i'm sure the kids won't even notice.

by Guest 04/09/14, 01:30 pm

By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

by soccersounder 04/09/14, 02:50 pm

silentparent wrote:By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

Dang SP, I never suspected you had that "side" to you: "urine & Mexican experience".. Wow.. You are a social genius...

You want to take the International game and Texanize it I see...

To your other know it all point: No the AR cannot just call fouls. The Center Ref can direct the ARs that he/she will handle all foul calls. I don't agree, but some do. And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

by Coach&Ref 04/09/14, 03:03 pm

soccersounder wrote: And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

Technically, that could mean that the AR is just trying to get the CR's attention. If he points a direction and the ball is in play, then that's correct. The AR can do the same gesture when the ball is out of play, just to get the CR's attention.

I know you knew that Sounder. I'm just giving you a hard time. rabbit

You are spot on about what the CR instructs the ARs to do in the pre-game conference. Some ARs are stripped of their powers altogether. It's a shame. This is why I wish crews travelled together, but it's impossible.

My instructions to AR's is usually, "Call what you see in front of you, but let me have first shot in the box. Also, if you hear any dissent or abuse towards you from the parents and/or coaches, get my attention. Remember to maintain eye contact with me." That's just my style, but it varies from CR to CR, like you said.

by Guest 04/09/14, 04:41 pm

soccersounder wrote:
silentparent wrote:By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

Dang SP, I never suspected you had that "side" to you: "urine & Mexican experience".. Wow.. You are a social genius...

You want to take the International game and Texanize it I see...

To your other know it all point: No the AR cannot just call fouls. The Center Ref can direct the ARs that he/she will handle all foul calls. I don't agree, but some do. And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

Close but no cigar. waving a shiny flag this way out, that way out etc. they can call fouls but many just want to point.... You obviously have never been to a usa game in mexico, raincoat required but hey some folks enjoy urine bombs, like you apparently...

by soccersounder 04/09/14, 05:17 pm

silentparent wrote:
soccersounder wrote:
silentparent wrote:By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

Dang SP, I never suspected you had that "side" to you: "urine & Mexican experience".. Wow.. You are a social genius...

You want to take the International game and Texanize it I see...

To your other know it all point: No the AR cannot just call fouls. The Center Ref can direct the ARs that he/she will handle all foul calls. I don't agree, but some do. And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

Close but no cigar. waving a shiny flag this way out, that way out etc. they can call fouls but many just want to point.... You obviously have never been to a usa game in mexico, raincoat required but hey some folks enjoy urine bombs, like you apparently...

Blah blah blah flag blah blah blah urine blah blah blah....

What ever.. I see you

by Seven 04/09/14, 05:24 pm

soccersounder wrote:
silentparent wrote:By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

Dang SP, I never suspected you had that "side" to you: "urine & Mexican experience".. Wow.. You are a social genius...

You want to take the International game and Texanize it I see...

To your other know it all point: No the AR cannot just call fouls. The Center Ref can direct the ARs that he/she will handle all foul calls. I don't agree, but some do. And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

What does that mean?

by Guest 04/09/14, 06:28 pm

sounder are you as dull in person as you are here?

by Packrabbit 04/09/14, 08:42 pm

silentparent wrote:Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...

Absolutely distasteful. You should utilize your user name more often or change it.

by Seven 04/09/14, 08:51 pm

Packrabbit wrote:
silentparent wrote:Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...
Absolutely distasteful. You should utilize your user name more often or change it.

Rabbit, maybe you should read your own disclaimer.

by Guest 04/09/14, 09:32 pm

Packrabbit wrote:
silentparent wrote:Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...
Absolutely distasteful. You should utilize your user name more often or change it.

Lol sorry I hurt your wittle feelings rabbit

by Koba 04/09/14, 09:56 pm

Silly rabbit, lighten up

by locacabeza 05/09/14, 02:34 am

silentparent wrote:
Packrabbit wrote:
silentparent wrote:Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...
Absolutely distasteful. You should utilize your user name more often or change it.
Lol sorry I hurt your wittle feelings rabbit

SP, I found a picture of you from your youth ... You are on the left ... Jerk.

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by Guest 05/09/14, 06:53 am

locacabeza wrote:
silentparent wrote:
Packrabbit wrote:
silentparent wrote:Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...
Absolutely distasteful. You should utilize your user name more often or change it.
Lol sorry I hurt your wittle feelings rabbit

SP, I found a picture of you from your youth ... You are on the left ... Jerk.

lol, more posts that only have to do with me, loser...

by soccersounder 05/09/14, 09:05 am

Seven wrote:
soccersounder wrote:
silentparent wrote:By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

Dang SP, I never suspected you had that "side" to you: "urine & Mexican experience".. Wow.. You are a social genius...

You want to take the International game and Texanize it I see...

To your other know it all point: No the AR cannot just call fouls. The Center Ref can direct the ARs that he/she will handle all foul calls. I don't agree, but some do. And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

What does that mean?

Take it how you wanna take it..

by soccersounder 05/09/14, 09:15 am

silentparent wrote:sounder are you as dull in person as you are here?

Dull or not, you are one using the example of a USMNT game in Mexico City (over 1800 miles away in other Country) to some how support your point on your issue with Spanish Language being used sometimes by your dds soccer Referees.

By assuming I have never been to that specific game ( I have not ). That proves Refs need to speak English in Dallas Youth Soccer???

by Guest 05/09/14, 09:17 am

soccersounder wrote:
Seven wrote:
soccersounder wrote:
silentparent wrote:By the way, being AR is more than waving a shiny flag, you can call fouls, just so you know...

Dang SP, I never suspected you had that "side" to you: "urine & Mexican experience".. Wow.. You are a social genius...

You want to take the International game and Texanize it I see...

To your other know it all point: No the AR cannot just call fouls. The Center Ref can direct the ARs that he/she will handle all foul calls. I don't agree, but some do. And by the way, if the AR is "waving a shiny flag", he/she is calling a foul....

What does that mean?

Take it how you wanna take it..

so YOU dont even understand what YOU wrote, well welcome to the club...

by soccersounder 05/09/14, 09:21 am

OK Square.... I will spell it out to you... 7 is trying to get me to call you racist... My reply means that it can mean just that if he wants it to...

by Guest 05/09/14, 09:37 am

soccersounder wrote:OK Square.... I will spell it out to you... 7 is trying to get me to call you racist... My reply means that it can mean just that if he wants it to...

yawn......

by soccermom78 05/09/14, 10:17 am

There were just too many teams this year for the local ref pool to handle. Add to that the fact that most of the more highly skilled local refs were out and about doing college games, and you have a real supply/demand problem. PLD had quite a few other local refs doing WAY too many games and dropping with dehydration and cramps. My own ref had multiple college games and couldn't even give availability for the tourney. If games were to be played, the refs had to come from somewhere. Assignors worked really hard to get refs and my ref even got a late night call for help and did a final as a favor. Either tourney becomes more exclusive(no more silver/bronze/pewter level f)or continues having ref issues.

by soccerjack 05/09/14, 11:20 am

locacabeza wrote:
silentparent wrote:
Packrabbit wrote:
silentparent wrote:Or the tournament could import refs from Mexico and add more teams (including yours) and more games. they your kid could get the experience of international style officiating

maybe we can throw urine at opposing teams and get the that mexican experience also...
Absolutely distasteful. You should utilize your user name more often or change it.
Lol sorry I hurt your wittle feelings rabbit

SP, I found a picture of you from your youth ... You are on the left ... Jerk.

Lol. Great picture.

by Tiki-taka 05/09/14, 11:45 am

soccermom78 wrote:There were just too many teams this year for the local ref pool to handle. Add to that the fact that most of the more highly skilled local refs were out and about doing college games, and you have a real supply/demand problem. PLD had quite a few other local refs doing WAY too many games and dropping with dehydration and cramps. My own ref had multiple college games and couldn't even give availability for the tourney. If games were to be played, the refs had to come from somewhere. Assignors worked really hard to get refs and my ref even got a late night call for help and did a final as a favor. Either tourney becomes more exclusive(no more silver/bronze/pewter level f)or continues having ref issues.

I thought the PLD tournament organizers did a very good job prepping the Refs and with scheduling. My DD reffed her first major tournament and came away with a great experience. Although she did have one continuous parent heckler during one of the games, it was kind of funny, as the guys wife finally had to ask him to walk away for a while, all because of a perceived incorrect throw in call early in the game. (Which by the way she had it right) All -in all her experience was confidence building.

I wonder if the Tournament Organizers could have done a better job of publizing that referees would be traveling from out of the DFW area for this event and would be from Mexico. Maybe at the Manager's meeting, having discussed it in more detail would have laid out more info for the managers to share with teams and parents. Not sure if that would have helped. Wasn't at the managers meeting so don't know if that happened.

Regarding having to speak english, I don't think that is such a big deal, as there is a common non verbal language referees use during the game. Although "play on" would be helpful for all refs to use. If anything, I saw an instance where a non-spanish speaking ref had issues with a spanish speaking spectator who would not move away from the back of the goal area. The ref was using clear non verbal motions by pointing at the person and pointing to the sidelines, while politely asking him to move. The specator immediately transitioned into body language that seemed to say: "what bro, I don't understand what you are saying"... and he didn't move ...total disrespect.

by soccersounder 05/09/14, 11:59 am

silentparent wrote:
soccersounder wrote:OK Square.... I will spell it out to you... 7 is trying to get me to call you racist... My reply means that it can mean just that if he wants it to...

yawn......

So more blah blah, let me say something, blah blah, get the last word in blah blah skip a response, blah blah blah, try to sound cool, blah blah blah...

You a boring dude...

And just because you type a response, does not mean you said anything..

And just because you can't keep up with what I'm saying, does not mean you have a point at all...

Just go back to trying to be funny and saying stuff like "waving" a flag, when you actually meant "pointing" a flag.. When you are debating, at least be precise...

I'll be the dull AR "waving" my flag every time the ball goes out of play across the touch-line on your dds game. But hey, at least I can speak English for you...

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